[arch-general] Problem with NFS on shutdown
I've got two machines in my local network that provide NFS shares. One is an old Raidsonic NAS (running a current version of OpenWRT), the other a dedicated server running Slackware). I normally mount the shares manually (the machine that is giving me a problem is a laptop, so its often not connected to my own network). The problem comes when I try to shut the laptop down (or restart it). Unless I've manually unmounted the NFS shares, the machine will hang and fail to shut down. In some instances, I've been able to use CTRL-C to break out of the stall, but frequently, I can only turn the machine off, which is not exactly ideal. I've been playing with the nfs exports, currently have the following: /mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash) (this is on the Raidsonic) and /mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash) on the Slackware server. The problem is specific to Arch - I've got two other distros installed on the laptop (though Arch is my usual OS). From SalineOS or Salix, the laptop will shut down or restart without having to manually unmount the NFS shares prior to shutdown. I suspect I've not got something set up correctly in systemd, but I'm currently at a loss to work out what. If I manually unmount the shares before shutdown, there is no problem. I've also tried adding the unmount to /etc/rc.local.shutdown, but that doesn't work - the system still hangs during shutdown. I'm sure that rc.local.shutdown is being executed - if I shut down without the shares mounted, I can see messages that they are not mounted. I'm not sure if I should be looking at the NFS export parameters on the hosts, or systemd on the laptop, though I've tried some variations on the exports without changing the behaviour. Does anyone know what I should be looking at to solve this? Paul.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com>wrote:
I've got two machines in my local network that provide NFS shares. One is an old Raidsonic NAS (running a current version of OpenWRT), the other a dedicated server running Slackware). I normally mount the shares manually (the machine that is giving me a problem is a laptop, so its often not connected to my own network).
The problem comes when I try to shut the laptop down (or restart it). Unless I've manually unmounted the NFS shares, the machine will hang and fail to shut down. In some instances, I've been able to use CTRL-C to break out of the stall, but frequently, I can only turn the machine off, which is not exactly ideal.
I've been playing with the nfs exports, currently have the following:
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>(this is on the Raidsonic)
and
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>on the Slackware server.
The problem is specific to Arch - I've got two other distros installed on the laptop (though Arch is my usual OS). From SalineOS or Salix, the laptop will shut down or restart without having to manually unmount the NFS shares prior to shutdown.
I suspect I've not got something set up correctly in systemd, but I'm currently at a loss to work out what. If I manually unmount the shares before shutdown, there is no problem. I've also tried adding the unmount to /etc/rc.local.shutdown, but that doesn't work - the system still hangs during shutdown. I'm sure that rc.local.shutdown is being executed - if I shut down without the shares mounted, I can see messages that they are not mounted.
I'm not sure if I should be looking at the NFS export parameters on the hosts, or systemd on the laptop, though I've tried some variations on the exports without changing the behaviour.
Does anyone know what I should be looking at to solve this?
Paul.
Same issue here with NFS4 (both laptop and NAS are Arch), if I find what's happenings I post back.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com>wrote:
I've got two machines in my local network that provide NFS shares. One is an old Raidsonic NAS (running a current version of OpenWRT), the other a dedicated server running Slackware). I normally mount the shares manually (the machine that is giving me a problem is a laptop, so its often not connected to my own network).
The problem comes when I try to shut the laptop down (or restart it). Unless I've manually unmounted the NFS shares, the machine will hang and fail to shut down. In some instances, I've been able to use CTRL-C to break out of the stall, but frequently, I can only turn the machine off, which is not exactly ideal.
I've been playing with the nfs exports, currently have the following:
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>(this is on the Raidsonic)
and
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>on the Slackware server.
The problem is specific to Arch - I've got two other distros installed on the laptop (though Arch is my usual OS). From SalineOS or Salix, the laptop will shut down or restart without having to manually unmount the NFS shares prior to shutdown.
I suspect I've not got something set up correctly in systemd, but I'm currently at a loss to work out what. If I manually unmount the shares before shutdown, there is no problem. I've also tried adding the unmount to /etc/rc.local.shutdown, but that doesn't work - the system still hangs during shutdown. I'm sure that rc.local.shutdown is being executed - if I shut down without the shares mounted, I can see messages that they are not mounted.
I'm not sure if I should be looking at the NFS export parameters on the hosts, or systemd on the laptop, though I've tried some variations on the exports without changing the behaviour.
Does anyone know what I should be looking at to solve this?
Paul.
Same issue here with NFS4 (both laptop and NAS are Arch), if I find what's happenings I post back. I've had a suggestion that the problem may be due to NetworkManger - if
Martín Cigorraga wrote: the network goes down before the NFS shares are unmounted, the sort of hang that I'm seeing will happen. I am using NetworkManager, so it does seem to be a possibility. I'm not sure how to check at what point in the shutdown cycle the network is disabled. I have a couple of ways of testing it (one possibility may be to try a wired network, which should connect and disconnect independently of NetworkManager), so I'll post back if I can prove or disprove the theory. The other option is to replace NetworkManager with wicd (which, so far as I can remember does not disconnect the network when the desktop is shut down). I will do some testing and post back the results. It would be interesting if anyone knows how the shut down sequence works, especially when the network is disconnected. Paul.
On 01/29/13 22:31, Paul Marwick wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com>wrote:
I've got two machines in my local network that provide NFS shares. One is an old Raidsonic NAS (running a current version of OpenWRT), the other a dedicated server running Slackware). I normally mount the shares manually (the machine that is giving me a problem is a laptop, so its often not connected to my own network).
The problem comes when I try to shut the laptop down (or restart it). Unless I've manually unmounted the NFS shares, the machine will hang and fail to shut down. In some instances, I've been able to use CTRL-C to break out of the stall, but frequently, I can only turn the machine off, which is not exactly ideal.
I've been playing with the nfs exports, currently have the following:
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>(this is on the Raidsonic)
and
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>on the Slackware server.
The problem is specific to Arch - I've got two other distros installed on the laptop (though Arch is my usual OS). From SalineOS or Salix, the laptop will shut down or restart without having to manually unmount the NFS shares prior to shutdown.
I suspect I've not got something set up correctly in systemd, but I'm currently at a loss to work out what. If I manually unmount the shares before shutdown, there is no problem. I've also tried adding the unmount to /etc/rc.local.shutdown, but that doesn't work - the system still hangs during shutdown. I'm sure that rc.local.shutdown is being executed - if I shut down without the shares mounted, I can see messages that they are not mounted.
I'm not sure if I should be looking at the NFS export parameters on the hosts, or systemd on the laptop, though I've tried some variations on the exports without changing the behaviour.
Does anyone know what I should be looking at to solve this?
Paul.
Same issue here with NFS4 (both laptop and NAS are Arch), if I find what's happenings I post back. I've had a suggestion that the problem may be due to NetworkManger - if
Martín Cigorraga wrote: the network goes down before the NFS shares are unmounted, the sort of hang that I'm seeing will happen.
I am using NetworkManager, so it does seem to be a possibility. I'm not sure how to check at what point in the shutdown cycle the network is disabled. I have a couple of ways of testing it (one possibility may be to try a wired network, which should connect and disconnect independently of NetworkManager), so I'll post back if I can prove or disprove the theory.
The other option is to replace NetworkManager with wicd (which, so far as I can remember does not disconnect the network when the desktop is shut down).
I will do some testing and post back the results. It would be interesting if anyone knows how the shut down sequence works, especially when the network is disconnected.
Paul.
Paul's suggestion led me to a solution on a similar issue I had. Thanks Paul for sharing. On my case it was taking well over minute to shutdown when the NFS is mounted. I tried several remedies I found on the net without success, but never occurred to me that network connection might be dying before NFS unmount. I'm not using NetworkManager though, I'm using systemd's dhcpcd service, so I simply made the NFS mount depend on the dhcpcd service. (my mount point is /var/cache/pacman/pkg) # mkdir /etc/systemd/system/var-cache-pacman-pkg.mount.wants # ln -s /usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd\@.service /etc/systemd/system/var-cache-pacman-pkg.mount.wants/dhcpcd\@wlp2s0.service Voila, now I can go to bed earlier.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com>wrote:
I've had a suggestion that the problem may be due to NetworkManger - if the network goes down before the NFS shares are unmounted, the sort of hang that I'm seeing will happen.
I am using NetworkManager, so it does seem to be a possibility. I'm not sure how to check at what point in the shutdown cycle the network is disabled. I have a couple of ways of testing it (one possibility may be to try a wired network, which should connect and disconnect independently of NetworkManager), so I'll post back if I can prove or disprove the theory.
The other option is to replace NetworkManager with wicd (which, so far as I can remember does not disconnect the network when the desktop is shut down).
I will do some testing and post back the results. It would be interesting if anyone knows how the shut down sequence works, especially when the network is disconnected.
Paul.
Good finding Paul. Later tonight I will try your suggestions and see what happens. One more scenario I can think of -please correct me if I'm wrong- is to look what happens if we don't use neither NetworkManger or wicd and just configure the wired interface manually - or even with netcfg, what is more or less the same. Then so far we have these possibilities: 1. try to delay NetworkManager from going down before all the NFS shares are unmounted. 2. if that can't be achieved or just doesn't work take a look what happens when NM is replaced with wicd. 3. as an optional test, disable any network managers and go minimalists using netcfg - or manually configured network interfaces. Later! -Martin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:01:59 +0100, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Paul Marwick <paul.marwick@gmail.com>wrote:
I've got two machines in my local network that provide NFS shares. One is an old Raidsonic NAS (running a current version of OpenWRT), the other a dedicated server running Slackware). I normally mount the shares manually (the machine that is giving me a problem is a laptop, so its often not connected to my own network).
The problem comes when I try to shut the laptop down (or restart it). Unless I've manually unmounted the NFS shares, the machine will hang and fail to shut down. In some instances, I've been able to use CTRL-C to break out of the stall, but frequently, I can only turn the machine off, which is not exactly ideal.
I've been playing with the nfs exports, currently have the following:
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>(this is on the Raidsonic)
and
/mnt/sda2/stor 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,** sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_**squash)<http://192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_wdelay,nohide,no_root_squash)>on the Slackware server.
The problem is specific to Arch - I've got two other distros installed on the laptop (though Arch is my usual OS). From SalineOS or Salix, the laptop will shut down or restart without having to manually unmount the NFS shares prior to shutdown.
I suspect I've not got something set up correctly in systemd, but I'm currently at a loss to work out what. If I manually unmount the shares before shutdown, there is no problem. I've also tried adding the unmount to /etc/rc.local.shutdown, but that doesn't work - the system still hangs during shutdown. I'm sure that rc.local.shutdown is being executed - if I shut down without the shares mounted, I can see messages that they are not mounted.
I'm not sure if I should be looking at the NFS export parameters on the hosts, or systemd on the laptop, though I've tried some variations on the exports without changing the behaviour.
Does anyone know what I should be looking at to solve this?
Paul.
Same issue here with NFS4 (both laptop and NAS are Arch), if I find what's happenings I post back. I've had a suggestion that the problem may be due to NetworkManger - if
Martín Cigorraga wrote: the network goes down before the NFS shares are unmounted, the sort of hang that I'm seeing will happen.
I am using NetworkManager, so it does seem to be a possibility. I'm not sure how to check at what point in the shutdown cycle the network is disabled. I have a couple of ways of testing it (one possibility may be to try a wired network, which should connect and disconnect independently of NetworkManager), so I'll post back if I can prove or disprove the theory.
The other option is to replace NetworkManager with wicd (which, so far as I can remember does not disconnect the network when the desktop is shut down).
I will do some testing and post back the results. It would be interesting if anyone knows how the shut down sequence works, especially when the network is disconnected.
Paul.
If you look in the <journalctl -b | grep -i systemd> log I think you will see that the NSF will be mounted early in the boot process and network.target gets started late in the boot because renaming occurs so late. When the system goes down the process is reversed and network.target stops early in the shutdown and the network is down long before nfs is unmounted. I think Sudaraka's solution may work. -- ron9
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Martín Cigorraga
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Paul Marwick
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Ronny
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Sudaraka Wijesinghe