Listmates; They say 3rd time is the charm, and so it was. On my 3rd install of kde-unstable with an existing kdemod3 install, I have hit deduced a procedure for doing it that will allow for the installation of kde-unstable without conflict or the need to resort to any "unrecommended" features of pacman. For those of you wanting to try the latest development version of kde4 without losing your kdemod3 install, this is the easiest way I have found to do it. I'll layout the procedure below, but a note. Don't get these steps out of order or you will have many conflicts listed whey you try to install kde4. (I've been there). Here is how I did it: (1) Edit /etc/pacman.conf and add the kde-unstable repository BEFORE the kdemod-legacy repository: [kde-unstable] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist [kdemod-legacy] Server = http://kdemod.iskrembilen.com/legacy/x86_64 (2) Do a fresh update of your current system with: # pacman -Sy -u :: Starting full system upgrade... :: Replace kdemultimedia with kde-unstable/kde-meta-kdemultimedia? [Y/n] Answer YES !! (3) Install kde4.3 Beta 2 as a normal kde install from kde-unstable # pacman -S kde For the FIRST package group Answer YES !! kde package not found, searching for group... :: group kde (including ignored packages): kdeaccessibility-colorschemes kdeaccessibility-iconthemes kdeaccessibility-kmag kdeaccessibility-kmousetool kdeaccessibility-kmouth kdeaccessibility-kttsd kdeadmin-kcron <snip> :: Install whole content? [Y/n] Yes For the SECOND package group Anser NO !! Then answer NO for EVERY one of the suggested packages: :: group kde (including ignored packages): kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdepimlibs kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev :: Install whole content? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeaccessibility from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeadmin from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeartwork from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdebase from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdebase-runtime from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdebase-workspace from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeedu from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdegames from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdegraphics from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdelibs from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdemultimedia from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdenetwork from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdepim from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdepimlibs from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeplasma-addons from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdesdk from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdetoys from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdeutils from group kde? [Y/n] n :: Install kdewebdev from group kde? [Y/n] n <snip> Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y The installation will then proceed normally. (4) Finally, run 'updatedb' as root to sync your local database for mlocate: # updatedb This isn't strictly required, but it help chasing down issue after the install if there are any. Now just log out and select kde as the session type and check out the new kde4 desktop. Hopefully this will save some other poor soul quite a bit of time on their first kde-unstable install. P.S. After the install you will still have kdm3 installed as the greeter daemon in /etc/rc.conf. This is fine. kdm for some reason doesn't list your kdemod3 session as an available session, so sticking with kdm3 will provide access to both kde3 and kde4. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com