[arch-general] wodim unuseable

Jude DaShiell

18 Mar 2012 18 Mar '12

1:28 p.m.

Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html

Show replies by date

Javier Vasquez

18 Mar 18 Mar

3:57 p.m.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

...

Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.

Not to get into the flame war of wodim vs. cdrecord (cdrtools), but have you tried cdrtools from AUR at least for test? It's the only burning SW I use, and I have no complains... Thanks, -- Javier.

Vladimir Lomov

19 Mar 19 Mar

5:07 a.m.

Hello, ** Jude DaShiell [2012-03-18 08:28:48 -0400]:

...

Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.

Usually for DVD I use growisofs. Did you try it? --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- <dark> Knghtbrd: We have lots of whatevers. <Knghtbrd> dark - In Debian? Hell yeah we do!

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

11:54 a.m.

Jude DaShiell wrote:

...

Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.

Cdrecord introduced DVD support in February/March 1998, so there is 14 years of verified DVD support in cdrecord. wodim started with the cdrecord version from September 2004, removed the DVD support code and replaced it with something half baken. Since May 6th 2007, there was no development activity on "wodim" besides from typo-corrections. I recommend to use the actively maintained original cdrtools instead of the dead "fork". Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

gt

20 Mar 20 Mar

3:05 a.m.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:54:20AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

Jude DaShiell wrote:

...
Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.

Cdrecord introduced DVD support in February/March 1998, so there is 14 years of verified DVD support in cdrecord.

wodim started with the cdrecord version from September 2004, removed the DVD support code and replaced it with something half baken. Since May 6th 2007, there was no development activity on "wodim" besides from typo-corrections.

I recommend to use the actively maintained original cdrtools instead of the dead "fork".

Joerg, will you recommend cdrtools over growisofs for dvds? As apparently both mkisofs and growisofs do the same thing. -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

11:37 a.m.

gt wrote:

...

Joerg, will you recommend cdrtools over growisofs for dvds? As apparently both mkisofs and growisofs do the same thing.

Not correct, growisofs needs mkisofs and (at least) if you like to write DVDs, you should use a recent mkisofs that is not installed when you installed wodim. If you have wodim, you usually also have "genisoimage" that is based on a mkisofs from September 2004 with some debian-specific bugs added. So you miss 50% of the current features and suffer from a lot of DVD & BluRay related problems that have either been fixed in the original in 2006 or that that are specific to genisoimage. grosisofs can also write DVDs, but it does not seem to get updates since 4 years. Also some people reported problems with growisofs that disappeared after switching to cdrtools. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

Thomas Bächler

11:46 a.m.

Am 19.03.2012 11:54, schrieb Joerg Schilling:

...

Jude DaShiell wrote:

...
Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.

Cdrecord introduced DVD support in February/March 1998, so there is 14 years of verified DVD support in cdrecord.

wodim started with the cdrecord version from September 2004, removed the DVD support code and replaced it with something half baken. Since May 6th 2007, there was no development activity on "wodim" besides from typo-corrections.

I recommend to use the actively maintained original cdrtools instead of the dead "fork".

That reminds me, I was going to re-add cdrtools to the repositories, but I forgot, because I never write CDs or DVDs anyway (and when I do, it works with what I have installed right now).

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

12:01 p.m.

Thomas Bächler wrote:

...

That reminds me, I was going to re-add cdrtools to the repositories, but I forgot, because I never write CDs or DVDs anyway (and when I do, it works with what I have installed right now).

If you rarely use it and if you only use very basic functionality, you may not run into problems that are visible to you ... if you are lucky. genisoimage creates nearly all ISO images with defects that may hit you in the future. genisoimage misses many important features needed for DVDs and BluRays wodim does not write BluRay at all and writing DVDs only works on a few cases. BTW: Linux-2.2 may also still work - do you really like to use it today? Wodim is code from 2004, it misses half of the development efforts seen in the original software. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

gt

12:47 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:01:08PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

Thomas Bächler wrote:

...
That reminds me, I was going to re-add cdrtools to the repositories, but I forgot, because I never write CDs or DVDs anyway (and when I do, it works with what I have installed right now).

If you rarely use it and if you only use very basic functionality, you may not run into problems that are visible to you ... if you are lucky.

genisoimage creates nearly all ISO images with defects that may hit you in the future.

genisoimage misses many important features needed for DVDs and BluRays

wodim does not write BluRay at all and writing DVDs only works on a few cases.

BTW: Linux-2.2 may also still work - do you really like to use it today? Wodim is code from 2004, it misses half of the development efforts seen in the original software.

I know that growisofs uses mkisofs, but didn't know that the present version is 4+ years old. Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding growisofs in the PATH. What should i do? Joerg, out of curiosity, do you use the commandline version of your baby, or some frontend? @ Thomas, it would be great to have cdrtools in the repositories. -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

1:01 p.m.

gt wrote:

...

I know that growisofs uses mkisofs, but didn't know that the present version is 4+ years old.

The present version of mkisofs is much more recent. The last changes happened in June 2011. If you however install genisoimage, you usually have mkisofs as link to genisoimage and that is nearly 8 years old.

...

Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding growisofs in the PATH. What should i do?

If you install cdrtools, this message should disappear.

...

Joerg, out of curiosity, do you use the commandline version of your baby, or some frontend?

I use the command line. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

gt

3:30 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 01:01:35PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

gt wrote:

...
Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding growisofs in the PATH. What should i do?

If you install cdrtools, this message should disappear.

I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc. But still k3b says this on startup: Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. PS: I have been using cdrtools instead of cdrkit since many years ;) -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

Genes MailLists

3:33 p.m.

On 03/20/2012 10:30 AM, gt wrote: perhaps you also need dvd+rw-tools?

gt

4:38 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:

...

On 03/20/2012 10:30 AM, gt wrote:

perhaps you also need dvd+rw-tools?

That's the whole discussion of the thread. I did have dvd+rw-tools installed, but after Joerg insisted that they are not necessary, i removed them. And it seems the k3b warning is superficial, it works fine without dvd+rw-tools. -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

Genes MailLists

4:42 p.m.

On 03/20/2012 11:38 AM, gt wrote: That's the whole discussion of the thread. I did have dvd+rw-tools

...

installed, but after Joerg insisted that they are not necessary, i removed them. And it seems the k3b warning is superficial, it works fine without dvd+rw-tools.

ah sorry for noise ... I lost track of the beginning of thread ... For me - with both packages installed - I have growisofs and I have no prob burning DVD's via k3b using current kde ... I guess I should remove the dvd+rw-tools package as well :-)

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

3:50 p.m.

gt wrote:

...

I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc.

But still k3b says this on startup:

Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Do you use an old version of k3b? Do you use a modified version of k3b? an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

gt

4:35 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:50:30PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

gt wrote:

...
I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc.

But still k3b says this on startup:

Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Do you use an old version of k3b?

Do you use a modified version of k3b?

an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years.

I am using the latest k3b from arch's repos. v2.0.2 But, i ignored the error and tried to write a DVD, and the burn went fine without growisofs. -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de

5:31 p.m.

gt wrote:

...

...
...
Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Do you use an old version of k3b?

Do you use a modified version of k3b?

an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years.

I am using the latest k3b from arch's repos. v2.0.2

But, i ignored the error and tried to write a DVD, and the burn went fine without growisofs.

Thank you for this information! Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

Jude DaShiell

22 Mar 22 Mar

5:11 p.m.

Thanks much for the help on cdrtools I got it built and installed along with dvdrwtools and probably sometime this weekend will do a proper burn of a dvd with it. On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

gt wrote:

...
...
...
Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Do you use an old version of k3b?

Do you use a modified version of k3b?

an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years.

I am using the latest k3b from arch's repos. v2.0.2

But, i ignored the error and tried to write a DVD, and the burn went fine without growisofs.

Thank you for this information!

J?rg

---------------------------------------------------------------- Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html

Jude DaShiell

21 Mar 21 Mar

10:49 a.m.

What's happening over here is I type cdrecord, but wodim gets run. If I were to nuke wodim would that clear this problem? On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Joerg Schilling wrote:

...

gt wrote:

...
I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc.

But still k3b says this on startup:

Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Do you use an old version of k3b?

Do you use a modified version of k3b?

an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years.

J?rg

---------------------------------------------------------------- Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html

Geoff

11:27 a.m.

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Jude DaShiell wrote:

...

What's happening over here is I type cdrecord, but wodim gets run. If I were to nuke wodim would that clear this problem?

It won't clear the problem because cdrecord is a symlink to wodim created by the cdrkit package which Arch uses in preference to cdrtools. You would just end up with no burning software at all. You would need to uninstall cdrkit and replace it with cdrtools from AUR. Geoff

4418

Age (days ago)

4422

Last active (days ago)

List overview

Download

19 comments

8 participants

participants (8)

Genes MailLists
Geoff
gt
Javier Vasquez
Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de
Jude DaShiell
Thomas Bächler
Vladimir Lomov