I just did a "pacman -Syu" And unfortunately I let it upgrade e17. according to "pacman -Ss enlightenment" I now have: community/e-svn 51937-1 (e17-svn) [installed] e17 no longer cooperates with personal themes I can select them, it remembers which theme is selected. But none of them have any effect on the appearance which is locked in on the default theme which is so dark that I can't even read the clock gadget And unlike my chosen theme there is no visible indication of which "button" will effectively be pushed if I press enter. (I'm a keyboard man mostly because I can use the keyboard for hours and hours, but 5 minutes of wrestling with the mouse is enough to cause my hands to start going numb...) So I NEED a theme that highlights the button currently in focus to use e17 effectively. It will let me change the screen resolution to one where I can read text without a microscope, But once I do I'm unable to logout cleanly. (It locks up and fails to save the configuration changes) While it's so locked up I can use <ctrl>+<alt>+<F2> to switch to another tty where I can log in and do a "ps -a" to see enlightenment is "running" But it doesn't respond to "killall enlightenment"... (Since I'm a startx user I can switch to tty1 {where I ran startx} and kill the X server with <ctrl>+C) I'm not really surprised (since it isn't listening to the theme) that my gadget and shelf settings were forgotten. It did let me put them back. (even if the clock is now useless) But at each and every change it presented me with an error that there could be only one system tray??? What that had to do with putting the sound mixer gadget back on the shelf I don't have a clue... If it matters I'm using an HP Pavilion a1410n with Amd 64 Athlon processors And an integrated Nvidia GeForce 6150 LE which didn't like the open source nouveau driver at all. So I'm using a pacman supplied proprietary Nvidia driver. I'm just glad that I've also got e16 installed or I'd really be crying in my beer. I don't suppose it's possible to roll back to the previous version of e17? Is anybody else having a problem with community/e-svn 51937-1 (e17-svn)? Or is it just me? Any suggestions would be welcome... But I already tried moving my ~/.e directory and letting e17 start with a fresh user profile. But it still wouldn't let me save my changes if they included screen resolution changes. -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>>