[arch-general] Network manager package naming
Hi, there are several packages for network manager and related software in the official repositories. Unfortunately, they follow different naming schemes. Most packages have "networkmanager" written as one word: * networkmanager * networkmanager-openconnect * networkmanager-pptp * networkmanager-vpnc * networkmanager-strongswan * networkmanager-openvpn * ... However, some packages have "network-manager" written with a hyphen: * network-manager-applet * network-manager-sstp And then there is * nm-connection-editor * nm-cloud-setup which follows it's own naming scheme of having "networkmanager" redacted to "nm". Unfortunately, that makes it hard to remember how each package is called. Therefore there's always some guessing or searching involved when installing a network manager related feature. Of course, this is not the biggest issue of all time, but I think it's more complicated than it should be. Can we simplify the naming conventions of those packages to use one common scheme that's easy to remember instead of having multiple coexisting ones? Thanks a lot in advance, LuKaRo
Hi, I noticed something similar going on with the KDE package groups. Some groups are named "kde-*" (e.g. kde-applications), some are named "kde*" (e.g. kdeaccessibility) and then there is one group that is simply called "plasma". Unfortunately I could not find any documentation about the naming scheme of the package groups. If I missed something I would be happy about a clarification as this seems very inconsistent and confusing to me. Best regards, Patrick 4. Juni 2020, 03:25 von lists@lrose.de:
Hi,
there are several packages for network manager and related software in the official repositories. Unfortunately, they follow different naming schemes. Most packages have "networkmanager" written as one word:
* networkmanager * networkmanager-openconnect * networkmanager-pptp * networkmanager-vpnc * networkmanager-strongswan * networkmanager-openvpn * ...
However, some packages have "network-manager" written with a hyphen:
* network-manager-applet * network-manager-sstp
And then there is
* nm-connection-editor * nm-cloud-setup
which follows it's own naming scheme of having "networkmanager" redacted to "nm".
Unfortunately, that makes it hard to remember how each package is called. Therefore there's always some guessing or searching involved when installing a network manager related feature. Of course, this is not the biggest issue of all time, but I think it's more complicated than it should be. Can we simplify the naming conventions of those packages to use one common scheme that's easy to remember instead of having multiple coexisting ones?
Thanks a lot in advance,
LuKaRo
On 6/3/20 9:25 PM, LuKaRo wrote:
Hi,
there are several packages for network manager and related software in the official repositories. Unfortunately, they follow different naming schemes. Most packages have "networkmanager" written as one word:
* networkmanager * networkmanager-openconnect * networkmanager-pptp * networkmanager-vpnc * networkmanager-strongswan * networkmanager-openvpn * ...
However, some packages have "network-manager" written with a hyphen:
* network-manager-applet * network-manager-sstp
And then there is
* nm-connection-editor * nm-cloud-setup
which follows it's own naming scheme of having "networkmanager" redacted to "nm".
Unfortunately, that makes it hard to remember how each package is called. Therefore there's always some guessing or searching involved when installing a network manager related feature. Of course, this is not the biggest issue of all time, but I think it's more complicated than it should be. Can we simplify the naming conventions of those packages to use one common scheme that's easy to remember instead of having multiple coexisting ones?
These are the upstream names of the relevant projects. So the "why" of things is not hard to understand. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
On 2020/06/05, 14:25 Eli Schwartz wrote:
On 6/3/20 9:25 PM, LuKaRo wrote:
Hi, [...] However, some packages have "network-manager" written with a hyphen:
* network-manager-applet * network-manager-sstp
Can we simplify the naming conventions of those packages to use one common scheme that's easy to remember instead of having multiple coexisting ones? [...] These are the upstream names of the relevant projects. So the "why" of
[...] things is not hard to understand.
[...] One issue that could be fixed is adding "NetworkManager" to the description of e.g. network-manager-applet, and plasma-nm so that they can be found with a search for that name. -- ProgAndy
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 18:39, Andreas Bosch
One issue that could be fixed is adding "NetworkManager" to the description of e.g. network-manager-applet, and plasma-nm so that they can be found with a search for that name.
Good idea. The lack of consistency in naming from upstream caused me to lose time over the years, not just in Arch but in Fedora and other distros that I used before.
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Andreas Bosch
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Eli Schwartz
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LuKaRo
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Patrick Mang
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