Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Xorg 1.8 moves to extra
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
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WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com Cheap and Reliable VPS Hosting: http://j.mp/arHk5e
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan
On 06/21/2010 08:43 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan Other things in the sense GNOME, KDE ?
-- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com Cheap and Reliable VPS Hosting: http://j.mp/arHk5e
On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote:
On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support -- Ionuț
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira
On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote:
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
Best regards,
Guillermo Leira
After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:46:13AM -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote:
How can I know if I still need HAL? [...] After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt
... which will, however, only work if hal hasn't been installed explicitly and will also disregard optdeps. If you're not sure whether to remove hal or net, it's best to check packages for hal optdeps and disable hal for a while (remove it from the "DAEMONS" line in your "/etc/rc.conf"). If everything still works as expected you can most likely remove it.
Im not 100% sure if KDE will work whit out hall, but KDE doesent use hal directly instead it uses the Solid framework of KDE. Solid isint dependant of one spesific bacend, but its like phonon so you can have multiple differend back ends whit it. i do not have any Idea of the state of differend backebnd, mayby some one whit more knowelege could provide additional information.
Matthew Monaco wrote:
On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote:
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
Best regards,
Guillermo Leira
After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt
According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server !??? Some packages are missing a dep here, I think... Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger@jabber.fr
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:21:39PM +0200, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt
According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server !??? Some packages are missing a dep here, I think...
That's correct. Only few packages actually depend on xorg-server (blackbox, enter, grass, hacburn, lwm, nvidia-utils, perl-x11-protocol, windowlab and xkbsel). As a workaround you can either mark xorg-server as installed explicitly by uninstalling/reinstalling the package or by using `pacman -D --asexplicit` (the latter only works with pacman>=3.4.0) or create a meta package with xorg-server as dependency.
On 21/06/10 20:35, Guillermo Leira wrote:
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
run "/etc/rc.d/hal stop" and remove it from your DAEMONS array. If stuff breaks, you needed it. Allan
How can I know if I still need HAL?
run "/etc/rc.d/hal stop" and remove it from your DAEMONS array. If stuff breaks, you needed it.
Allan
Thank you very much to all. :-) I'll have to mix all the answers: I have systems with XFCE and GNOME, physical and virtual... I'll check dependencies and I'll also try to remove hal from daemons array. Best Regards, Guillermo Leira
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 "Guillermo Leira" <gleira@gleira.com> wrote:
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
Best regards,
Guillermo Leira
You still need it if you're using XFCE. Ananda
$ pacman -Qi hal Name : hal Version : 0.5.14-4 ......... Required By : gnome-vfs vlc ......... On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ananda Samaddar <ananda@samaddar.co.uk>wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 "Guillermo Leira" <gleira@gleira.com> wrote:
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
Best regards,
Guillermo Leira
You still need it if you're using XFCE.
Ananda
-- Arch Linuxer, Pythoner, Geek --> Blog: http://apt-blog.net
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Ananda Samaddar <ananda@samaddar.co.uk>wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 "Guillermo Leira" <gleira@gleira.com> wrote:
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
Hi,
How can I know if I still need HAL?
Best regards,
Guillermo Leira
You still need it if you're using XFCE.
Ananda
that's because Thunar and Exo still use hal
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru <biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote:
On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Not far away, not far away, I just got gnome-vfs and podsleuth depending on it, which is scheduled to be removed by GNOME3 and banshee. New xorg update brings me a apparently smoother feeling when I scroll pages in Firefox, which is a big advantage for me, thanks for devs.
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
-- Ionuț
On 06/21/2010 07:05 PM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru<biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote:
On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote:
Andreas Radke wrote:
This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf as a replacement for the hal .fdi files. After upgrading to this release, configuration for input devices in hal is ignored. Documentation about this change can be found on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#xorg.conf.d_.28Xorg_1.8.29 Nvidia-173xx and -96xx drivers currently don't support the new Xorg release. We recommend using the xf86-video-nouveau driver package for now.
URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/ _______________________________________________ arch-announce mailing list arch-announce@archlinux.org http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ?
Not for X. You may still need it for other things...
Not far away, not far away, I just got gnome-vfs and podsleuth depending on it, which is scheduled to be removed by GNOME3 and banshee. New xorg update brings me a apparently smoother feeling when I scroll pages in Firefox, which is a big advantage for me, thanks for devs.
Allan
Most notabaly KDE and Thunar
and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support
-- Ionuț
Even kdelibs requires it. -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com Cheap and Reliable VPS Hosting: http://j.mp/arHk5e
participants (13)
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"Jérôme M. Berger"
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Allan McRae
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Ananda Samaddar
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Gmail
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Guillermo Leira
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Ionuț Bîru
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Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr.
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jwbirdsong
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Lukas Fleischer
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Matthew Monaco
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Nilesh Govindarajan
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PT M.
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甘露(Gan Lu)