Am 31.08.2010 23:20, schrieb Ionuț Bîru:

On 09/01/2010 12:19 AM, Linus Eklöf wrote:

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After an upgrade in the beginning of summer (don't remember what was updated) my hal fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy stopped working, I had to change the keyboard mapping in the xfce settings and haven't been able to use my joypad since. I can't find anything on it with google and I've upgraded my system a couple of times since, but it still isn't working. Anybody who knows what might cause this?

because hal is not used by xorg anymore since long time ago.

http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:

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http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

Because some of us read them and it's better to assume the community is capable of evolving.

2010/8/31 Ng Oon-Ee :

On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:39 -0300, Guilherme M. Nogueira wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:

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http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

Because some of us read them and it's better to assume the community is capable of evolving.

+1, some read them, that's why we only have these few emails rather than dozens of emails.

To be fair, those who infrequently update are more likely to miss announcements. Perhaps they shouldn't be using rolling release in that case.

i always liked the idea of including any relevant announcements directly into pacman output, possibly bundling announcements right into packages themselves, and displaying the ones created between old ver -> new ver. its just text, and not many; it would compress well. while i rarely have problems, and when i do i'm adept enough to usually get it myself or find the answer, i am certainly guilty of not going to the website to read announcements (there is a ML for that tho, right?). in fact i don't think i ever have :-X, but most people, i would think, do at least look at pacman output. i'm not an advocate of noobification "features", but a feature of this type would be useful for anyone. system state management is a hot topic for me, and this is one of the things on my list for my own manager i'm working on (i don't like any package managers that exist, i want a DVCS at it's heart :-) C Anthony