[arch-general] Odd Problem After Install
Hi all. After installing Arch and getting everything all nice and setup, I've hit a bit of an issue. When I boot in to the system, I get this: Arch: clean, 210545/15269888 files, 2401901/61048873 blocks. This number is permanent, and won't move. It may be an issue after installation of Gnome. I can't change TTY's, either. How do I get rid of this issue?
Hunter Jozwiak <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> writes:
installation of Gnome. I can't change TTY's, either. How do I get rid of this issue?
"can't change TTYs" usually means it's either disabled in xorg.conf, or the keyboard isn't set up correctly. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power.
This is an odd issue. I'm not sure why GDM or Lightdm are misbehaving like this; this is a brand new issue and I am not sure as to the culprate. There are, in fact, lines below the cleaning status. Looks to me like part of the init process: I see a two lines from netctl saying that it is restoring my profile, another saying that I've reached the default user runlevel, and another that says starting target graphical interface. I've reinstalled xorg, but am not sure as to what must be configured. On 6/10/14, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
Hunter Jozwiak <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> writes:
installation of Gnome. I can't change TTY's, either. How do I get rid of this issue?
"can't change TTYs" usually means it's either disabled in xorg.conf, or the keyboard isn't set up correctly.
-- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power.
Hunter Jozwiak <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> writes:
This is an odd issue. I'm not sure why GDM or Lightdm are misbehaving like this; this is a brand new issue and I am not sure as to the culprate. There are, in fact, lines below the cleaning status. Looks to me like part of the init process: I see a two lines from netctl saying that it is restoring my profile, another saying that I've reached the default user runlevel, and another that says starting target graphical interface. I've reinstalled xorg, but am not sure as to what must be configured.
First you need to make sure that your keyboard is specified correctly. With switching to consoles, that particularly involves 102 vs. 105 keys (or however many keys there are). Keep in mind that the system (consoles) and the GUI (X11) can have totally different opinions about what keyboard is connected. They also use different ways to set up keybord layouts (like loadkeys vs. xmodmap vs. xinput). Window managers don't interfere with this. So-called desktop environments usually tend to mess up your keyboard configuration because they are insisting to use what they want and ignore your own configuration, like xmodmaps loaded from ~/.xinitrc. I don't know what is used in arch to set up the keyboard. Try something like 'find /etc/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i "pc.*10[0-9]" | less' to find configuration files which might be relevant. Once your keyboard is specified correctly, turn off all so-called display managers like GDM and use startx to start an X11 session. Do not start any of the so-called desktop environments. Try to switch to a console. If you can't switch, quit the X11 session, configure your keyboard correctly and try again until it works. You may need to use an xorg.conf to specify something like: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XKBOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbModel" "pc102" Option "XkbLayout" "de" EndSection When you are sure that your keyboard is set up correctly, switch back to X11, open an xterm and examine the output of 'xmodmap -pke'. You can save that to a file like ~/.Xmodmap which can be loaded any time with xmodmap. If you want to modify your keyboard layout, you can use xev to see what keys you're pressing and edit your .Xmodmap. Next time you start a so-called desktop environment, you can load your .Xmodmap and your keyboard should work as expected. However, it will never work right unless you set it up right on the console first. To make this more fun, the way the keyboard is set up changes from time to time, without notice, and there are at least three different places to configure the keyboard. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power.
On 06/10, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
There are, in fact, lines below the cleaning status. Looks to me like part of the init process: I see a two lines from netctl saying that it is restoring my profile, another saying that I've reached the default user runlevel, and another that says starting target graphical interface.
You're right, those are part of the boot/init process. They're presence is normal, and because of that it's hard to determine what problem you're trying to solve. Without knowing what it is you *expect* to see, we can't determine how that's different from what you actually do see. Many of us see those messages time and time again, and think nothing of it. So what exactly are you looking for help with, and why did you think merely reinstalling X would solve it? -- "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
After a system update this morning, it now works. It was likely a broken package in Gnome, since many Gnome packages got updated. On 6/11/14, Bigby James <bigby.james@crepcran.com> wrote:
On 06/10, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
There are, in fact, lines below the cleaning status. Looks to me like part of the init process: I see a two lines from netctl saying that it is restoring my profile, another saying that I've reached the default user runlevel, and another that says starting target graphical interface.
You're right, those are part of the boot/init process. They're presence is normal, and because of that it's hard to determine what problem you're trying to solve. Without knowing what it is you *expect* to see, we can't determine how that's different from what you actually do see. Many of us see those messages time and time again, and think nothing of it. So what exactly are you looking for help with, and why did you think merely reinstalling X would solve it?
-- "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
On 06/11, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
After a system update this morning, it now works. It was likely a broken package in Gnome, since many Gnome packages got updated.
Good to hear. Just remember in the future to let folks know what behavior you expect to see, or what you're trying to accomplish and how you've tried to accomplish it, to provide respondents with more context. ;) Take care. -- "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
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