[arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel: 3.12.2-1-ARCH Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be? I also went from the 3.11 kernel However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ... It's happened to someone else? Thanks for everything.
On 04.12.13 at 12:08, Maykel Franco wrote:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
See ArchWiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Maximizing_Performance#Tuning_kernel_pa... Even USB 3 is slow compared to RAM... See also this article on LWN for more information: http://lwn.net/Articles/572911/
在 2013-12-4，19:08，Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> 写道：
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
I experience this as well. No matter copying to an external drive or internal HDD. I experience very terrible freeze. Last time when I was copying big files, I locked the screen on GNOME and went out. When I came back and found the copy was still in process since the LED of my HDD is flashing. I typed my password and waited nearly 3 minutes until it stopped freezing and unlocked my screen! -- Best regards, StarBrilliant
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:33:38PM +0800, BlissSam wrote:
在 2013-12-4，19:08，Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> 写道：
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
I experience this as well. No matter copying to an external drive or internal HDD. I experience very terrible freeze.
Last time when I was copying big files, I locked the screen on GNOME and went out. When I came back and found the copy was still in process since the LED of my HDD is flashing. I typed my password and waited nearly 3 minutes until it stopped freezing and unlocked my screen! This isn't a) the same as described above and b) not a kernelbug. It's simply the combination of (slow) hdd, usb and the scheduler. Processes like your gnome and other os-stuff are sleeping while higher-priority processes come in. But the biggest problem will be that your internal-drive + usb are blocking the bus and while writing and reading big files the access time for other processes can be very slow (your hdd is at max. usage rate).
-- Best regards, StarBrilliant
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 -- Kirill Churin Jabber: reflexing@reflexing.ru
Try disabling USB emulation on your motherboard. I had the same problem and this helped a lot, even if it is not a complete solution. --Temlin Olivér On Dec 4, 2013 5:47 PM, "Maykel Franco" <maykeldebian@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> writes:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
BTW what is the filesystem? I experienced similar problems on an internal disk, of which the filesystem is NTFS. NTFS-3g seems to consume too much CPU in the case of very large writes, and that caused me a hang. -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics and Astronomy, SJTU OpenPGP public key: 7795E591
Try: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Storage_Devices#Poor_copy_performan... Other possibility is a different kernel scheduler, more aware of disk load and desktop responsiveness, like linux-ck<https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/linux-ck> . On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM, XeCycle <xecycle@gmail.com> wrote:
Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> writes:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
3.12.2-1-ARCH
Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
I also went from the 3.11 kernel
However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
It's happened to someone else?
Thanks for everything.
BTW what is the filesystem? I experienced similar problems on an internal disk, of which the filesystem is NTFS. NTFS-3g seems to consume too much CPU in the case of very large writes, and that caused me a hang.
-- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics and Astronomy, SJTU OpenPGP public key: 7795E591
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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Maykel Franco <maykeldebian@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
Take a look at this article on LWN: https://lwn.net/Articles/572911/ In short: it may be fixed by changing "/proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio" of even better "/proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_bytes" to some reasonable small value. Lukas
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André Vitor
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BlissSam
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Flexo Rodriguez
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Jakub Klinkovský
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Kirill Churin
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Lukas Jirkovsky
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Maykel Franco
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Temlin Olivér
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XeCycle