[arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.
Guys, Even from a kde4 hater, kde 4.5.1-1 is looking much better than prior releases. Way to go Arch on the packaging. It is starting to add some of the efficiencies k3 had that k4 has lacked. Simple case-in-point, just rt-click to change the desktop wp and you now have a clean 3 column thumbnail setup that provides 300% more info than the old slow single column thumbnail list. Not earth-shattering, but it is good to see some of the really awkward dialogs getting reworked. Don't get me wrong, k4 still needs work, but I'm more than willing to tip my hat and recognize good progress when it has been made despite the 2.5 years of hell I've been though with that desktop. (as an aside - the 3D chessboard wallpaper is just killer) We shall see where it goes... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be really slow and laggy. Rob On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, David C. Rankin < drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Even from a kde4 hater, kde 4.5.1-1 is looking much better than prior releases. Way to go Arch on the packaging. It is starting to add some of the efficiencies k3 had that k4 has lacked. Simple case-in-point, just rt-click to change the desktop wp and you now have a clean 3 column thumbnail setup that provides 300% more info than the old slow single column thumbnail list. Not earth-shattering, but it is good to see some of the really awkward dialogs getting reworked.
Don't get me wrong, k4 still needs work, but I'm more than willing to tip my hat and recognize good progress when it has been made despite the 2.5 years of hell I've been though with that desktop. (as an aside - the 3D chessboard wallpaper is just killer)
We shall see where it goes...
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On 2 September 2010 01:59, Robert Howard <rjh0507@ecu.edu> wrote:
I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be really slow and laggy.
Dolphin has never failed to make me forget that I have more than 256MB of RAM, with or without thumbnailing. In contrast, Nautilus just works, let alone PCManFM or Thunar, even with thumbnailing on. KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.
Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On Thursday 02 September 2010 04:53:24 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.
Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread.
IMO KDE part of lost snappiness is due to addtional technical layers and latency between intra-daemon communication(nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and what not) rather than resource hog. It can be tuned down to bare minimum necessary. I have not seen the lag anytime but I have a 4GB ram machine. however konqueror and rekonq are far more snappier than anything else. firefox OTOH damn its slow to start. even soffice starts faster than it. I have no extensions installed. Another issue to consider is consistency of lag. on KDE side, its pretty much constant. On windows 7 machine at my work, its click and pray, despite of having a 2GB RAM machine.(1GB is taken by VM but lot is still free). Compared to KDE, that really unbearable. -- Regards Shridhar
Perhaps I misstated my point. My system is pretty snappy when it's working right (it should be as I've got 8GB RAM and 8 CPU cores) but since the last update Dolphin literally stop working for short periods when you interact with files (mouse over, click, right click). It's a total freeze of the application and it can take anywhere from 15-20 seconds to respond again. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Shridhar Daithankar < ghodechhap@ghodechhap.net> wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2010 04:53:24 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.
Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread.
IMO KDE part of lost snappiness is due to addtional technical layers and latency between intra-daemon communication(nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and what not) rather than resource hog. It can be tuned down to bare minimum necessary.
I have not seen the lag anytime but I have a 4GB ram machine. however konqueror and rekonq are far more snappier than anything else. firefox OTOH damn its slow to start. even soffice starts faster than it. I have no extensions installed.
Another issue to consider is consistency of lag. on KDE side, its pretty much constant. On windows 7 machine at my work, its click and pray, despite of having a 2GB RAM machine.(1GB is taken by VM but lot is still free). Compared to KDE, that really unbearable.
-- Regards Shridhar
Robert Howard wrote:
Perhaps I misstated my point. My system is pretty snappy when it's working right (it should be as I've got 8GB RAM and 8 CPU cores) but since the last update Dolphin literally stop working for short periods when you interact with files (mouse over, click, right click). It's a total freeze of the application and it can take anywhere from 15-20 seconds to respond again.
That's a known dbus issue, it should be fixed in dbus-core from [testing]
On 09/03/2010 03:51 AM, A Rojas wrote:
That's a known dbus issue, it should be fixed in dbus-core from [testing]
Oh that's a dbus issue? I was wondering what's wrong with my system. -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com VPS Hosting: http://www.itech7.com/a/vps
On 09/01/2010 12:59 PM, Robert Howard wrote:
I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be really slow and laggy.
Rob
Rob, Don't forget, for plasma restarts, there are only 3 commands required. If you find you need to restart plasma (or just to check for messages during restart), put the following in a little script called 'rsplasma' (or whatever you want to call it): #!/bin/bash kbuildsycoca4 # 'k'de 'build' 'sy'stem 'co'nfig 'ca'che kquitapp plasma-desktop >/dev/null 2>&1 # quit plasma kstart plasma-desktop & >/dev/null 2>&1 # restart the darn thing and pray get rid of the '>/dev/null 2>&1' to see the bazillion lines of gibberish and errors. That may help narrow the issue. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
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A Rojas
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David C. Rankin
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Nilesh Govindarajan
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Ray Rashif
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Robert Howard
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Shridhar Daithankar