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[arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

David C. Rankin

2 Aug 2010 2 Aug '10

9:37 a.m.

Guys, It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was: [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2) Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no more untiered mirrors" post from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again? If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Burlynn Corlew Jr

2 Aug 2 Aug

11:17 a.m.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin < drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

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Guys,

It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was:

[2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2)

Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no more untiered mirrors" post from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again?

If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p

-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for answers to farther than the mailing list.

Robert Howard

11:24 a.m.

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin < drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

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Guys,

It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was:

[2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2)

Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no more untiered mirrors"

I've noticed the same thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the packages I use. On Aug 2, 2010 3:17 AM, "Burlynn Corlew Jr" wrote: post

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from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again?

If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p

-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

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It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for answers to farther than the mailing list.

Peter Lewis

11:33 a.m.

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I've noticed the same

On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:24 Robert Howard wrote: thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the

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packages I use.

This thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates. For reference, the mirror I was using (with no updates) was http://www.mirrorservice.org/ and the one I switched to (with the updates) was http://ftp5.gwdg.de HTH! Pete.

Kazuo Teramoto

11:48 a.m.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Lewis wrote:

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thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.

Well... we dont have so much mirrors so a monte carlo sampling is needed, we can do it in a deterministic way.... I use reflector for this, its choose mirrors by "updatedness", and can sort using rankmirrors Kazuo -- «Dans la vie, rien n'est à craindre, tout est à comprendre» Marie Sklodowska Curie.

Peter Lewis

3:19 p.m.

On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:48 Kazuo Teramoto wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Lewis wrote:

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thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.

Well... we dont have so much mirrors so a monte carlo sampling is

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needed, we can do it in a deterministic way....

Indeed :-) That's just me trying to get an indicative result to show there's something to investigate. Or laziness. Probably that, actually.

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I use reflector for this, its choose mirrors by "updatedness", and can sort using rankmirrors

Thanks for the tip. Pete.

Guillermo Leira

12:44 p.m.

New subject: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

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-----Mensaje original----- De: arch-general-bounces@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general- bounces@archlinux.org] En nombre de Peter Lewis Enviado el: lunes, 02 de agosto de 2010 9:33 Para: arch-general@archlinux.org Asunto: Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

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I've noticed the same

On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:24 Robert Howard wrote: thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the

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packages I use.

This thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.

For reference, the mirror I was using (with no updates) was

http://www.mirrorservice.org/

and the one I switched to (with the updates) was

http://ftp5.gwdg.de

HTH!

Pete.

Mirrorservice.org has not given me any update for some days. I changed to another mirror, and I'm receiving updates again. That mirror seems to be not updating... Best Regards, Guillermo

David C. Rankin

7:40 p.m.

New subject: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

On 08/02/2010 02:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote:

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https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for answers to farther than the mailing list.

Burlynn, thanks... I monitor this list and the arch-dev list. If there is something affecting the ability to update, I expect to see notice in one of those two places. I have added the MirrorStatus to my arch bookmarks, and looking at the list, none of my first configured mirrors are on the list anymore. Thus, pacman would check the old/'no longer updated' mirrors, find that there were no changes and quit without update. That's bad. So it seems that users who haven't seen updates in the past 4days - week, are probably bitten by the same issue. For the US, I added the following at the top of my mirror list: # United States Server = ftp://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Before, manually adding the mirrors, I was using: # United States Server = ftp://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = http://mirrors.gigenet.com/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 Server = http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_6... Server = ftp://mirrors.hosef.org/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 When I checked for updates again, there were ~ 300M of updates ready. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Ng Oon-Ee

3 Aug 3 Aug

2:44 a.m.

New subject: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 10:40 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 08/02/2010 02:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote:

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https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for answers to farther than the mailing list.

Burlynn, thanks...

I monitor this list and the arch-dev list. If there is something affecting the ability to update, I expect to see notice in one of those two places.

Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect.

Martín Cigorraga

6:37 a.m.

Would be useful to put a script in cron using reflector to update mirrors say, once a week?

David Rosenstrauch

6:38 a.m.

New subject: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:

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Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect.

Link? I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on the Arch announcements list. Thanks, DR

Ng Oon-Ee

6:58 a.m.

New subject: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 22:38 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote:

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On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:

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Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect.

Link? I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on the Arch announcements list.

Thanks,

DR

http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-July/017431.html Which you could of course have found by reading the very first post that started this thread in which he mentions the topic and that it was posted on arch-dev-public.

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Burlynn Corlew Jr
David C. Rankin
David Rosenstrauch
Guillermo Leira
Kazuo Teramoto
Martín Cigorraga
Ng Oon-Ee
Peter Lewis
Robert Howard