[arch-general] virtualize a w8 ntfs partition and run w8 inside Arch
I dual boot Arch and w8 in EFI mode with rEFInd. Both Os are on the same ssd, with a ESP partition. Now I am looking to allow Arch users to run a virtualized version of the w8 already installed. The idea is to keep the dual boot option and allow the use of the installed w8 from Arch.I want to run within Arch a real "copy" of w8. In short, when changes are made or new apps are installed from w8 boot, I want to be sure these changes will be taken into account in the virtualized w8. It seems to me the QEMU arch wiki part [1] : Using any real partition as the single primary partition of a hard disk image will do what I am willing for. Am I right? If yes, is there any workaround to use the ESP partition of my ssd instead of creating a MBR like suggested in the WIKI ? Thank you for help and tips. [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:50 PM, arnaud gaboury
I dual boot Arch and w8 in EFI mode with rEFInd. Both Os are on the same ssd, with a ESP partition.
Now I am looking to allow Arch users to run a virtualized version of the w8 already installed. The idea is to keep the dual boot option and allow the use of the installed w8 from Arch.I want to run within Arch a real "copy" of w8. In short, when changes are made or new apps are installed from w8 boot, I want to be sure these changes will be taken into account in the virtualized w8.
It seems to me the QEMU arch wiki part [1] : Using any real partition as the single primary partition of a hard disk image
will do what I am willing for. Am I right? If yes, is there any workaround to use the ESP partition of my ssd instead of creating a MBR like suggested in the WIKI ?
Thank you for help and tips.
I'm currently doing something similar in order to limit my exposure to Windows 7. However I'm using VirtualBox. I'm not familiar enough with QEMU to know how it compares on a feature level, USB passthrough and other things, but I thought I'd just mention it as an option to QEMU. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus
Now I am looking to allow Arch users to run a virtualized version of the w8 already installed. The idea is to keep the dual boot option and allow the use of the installed w8 from Arch.I want to run within Arch a real "copy" of w8. In short, when changes are made or new apps are installed from w8 boot, I want to be sure these changes will be taken into account in the virtualized w8.
Isn't Windows going to complain about the hardware changing when you alternate between the virtual machine and the real PC? -- damjan
Isn't Windows going to complain about the hardware changing when you alternate between the virtual machine and the real PC?
-- damjan
I think it will be a serious issue. you are right. Hardware registration can be a barrier to this setup. -- google.com/+arnaudgabourygabx
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 06:38:59PM +0200, arnaud gaboury wrote:
Isn't Windows going to complain about the hardware changing when you alternate between the virtual machine and the real PC?
-- damjan
I think it will be a serious issue. you are right. Hardware registration can be a barrier to this setup.
I have run setups like that for extended periods of time without a single complaint. The first time I've run into issues is actually now at work, I suspect it's the OEM license key that is causing the troubles. In any case there is no harm in trying. You'll only get the non-genuine crap popping up in the VM, when booting into it directly there'll be no complaints at all. So try it, if you get away with it, great. If not, just dual boot instead. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus What gets measured, gets done. -- Tom Peters
In any case there is no harm in trying.
I will of course try first, especially as the box is not for professional use. I already installed w8 AFTER linux with NO issues at all using EFI. So I am ready for the "dirty" virtualization.
Excerpts from arnaud gaboury's message from Thu 15-May-14 20:56:
I am ready for the "dirty" virtualization.
Just want to share my experience with intalling MS Windows 8 (64 bit) in Virtualbox. The DVD installer crashes at very beginning. The solution is a trick of manual "fine tuning" the VM described at [0]. It mentions Windows Server 2012, but was the only thing helped me with Windows 8. Technically it enables the CPU instruction CMPXCHG16B [1]. Cheers, Sergey [0] http://4sysops.com/forums/topic/windows-server-2012-r2-on-virtual-box-error-... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Older_implementations
participants (4)
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arnaud gaboury
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Damjan Georgievski
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Magnus Therning
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Sergey Manucharian