[arch-general] kernel-lts ....
.... I am new to the list, used Linux since Caldera 2.2. I noticed references to a kernel-lts, labelled as 'long-time-support' on the Arch website. I did a bit of googling & noticed references to such from Arch & Ubuntu forums. I found no references at kernel.org, although I noticed that they listed an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.45, same number as the '-lts' kernel in Arch. Is the 'lts' kernel project Arch/Ubuntu-specific, or (semi-?) supported from kernel.org ? Also, I noticed that the bleeding edge kernels (seem to) include firmware packages, but I didn't see them for the lts kernels, did I just miss them or are they absent from the 'lts' series of kernels ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 10:34 -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
.... I am new to the list, used Linux since Caldera 2.2. I noticed references to a kernel-lts, labelled as 'long-time-support' on the Arch website. I did a bit of googling & noticed references to such from Arch & Ubuntu forums. I found no references at kernel.org, although I noticed that they listed an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.45, same number as the '-lts' kernel in Arch. Is the 'lts' kernel project Arch/Ubuntu-specific, or (semi-?) supported from kernel.org ? Also, I noticed that the bleeding edge kernels (seem to) include firmware packages, but I didn't see them for the lts kernels, did I just miss them or are they absent from the 'lts' series of kernels ? TIA ....
The -lts kernels are stable kernels as maintained by kernel.org people. The 2.6.27 kernel has been maintained as stable kernel for 2-3 years now. When we added the kernel, our intentions were to have a maintained stable kernel that doesn't bring surprises after a security update, something that going from 2.6.31 -> 2.6.32 won't offer you. The firmware binaries were included in drivers before, they've been split to standalone files in later versions of the kernel. That's why 2.6.27 doesn't come with a -firmware package.
On 01/31/10 10:54, Jan de Groot wrote:
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 10:34 -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
.... I am new to the list, used Linux since Caldera 2.2. I noticed references to a kernel-lts, labelled as 'long-time-support' on the Arch website. I did a bit of googling& noticed references to such from Arch & Ubuntu forums. I found no references at kernel.org, although I noticed that they listed an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.45, same number as the '-lts' kernel in Arch. Is the 'lts' kernel project Arch/Ubuntu-specific, or (semi-?) supported from kernel.org ? Also, I noticed that the bleeding edge kernels (seem to) include firmware packages, but I didn't see them for the lts kernels, did I just miss them or are they absent from the 'lts' series of kernels ? TIA ....
The -lts kernels are stable kernels as maintained by kernel.org people. The 2.6.27 kernel has been maintained as stable kernel for 2-3 years now. When we added the kernel, our intentions were to have a maintained stable kernel that doesn't bring surprises after a security update, something that going from 2.6.31 -> 2.6.32 won't offer you.
The firmware binaries were included in drivers before, they've been split to standalone files in later versions of the kernel. That's why 2.6.27 doesn't come with a -firmware package.
Thanks for the clarifications. Does the Arch installer let me choose the 'lts' kernel during install, or would I install & then 'downgrade' to it ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
You can simply install it through "pacman -S kernel26-lts" and edit you bootloader configuration to point to the new ramdisk and kernel image. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:02 PM, William A. Mahaffey III <wam@hiwaay.net>wrote:
On 01/31/10 10:54, Jan de Groot wrote:
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 10:34 -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
.... I am new to the list, used Linux since Caldera 2.2. I noticed references to a kernel-lts, labelled as 'long-time-support' on the Arch website. I did a bit of googling& noticed references to such from Arch & Ubuntu forums. I found no references at kernel.org, although I noticed that they listed an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.45, same number as the '-lts' kernel in Arch. Is the 'lts' kernel project Arch/Ubuntu-specific, or (semi-?) supported from kernel.org ? Also, I noticed that the bleeding edge kernels (seem to) include firmware packages, but I didn't see them for the lts kernels, did I just miss them or are they absent from the 'lts' series of kernels ? TIA ....
The -lts kernels are stable kernels as maintained by kernel.org people. The 2.6.27 kernel has been maintained as stable kernel for 2-3 years now. When we added the kernel, our intentions were to have a maintained stable kernel that doesn't bring surprises after a security update, something that going from 2.6.31 -> 2.6.32 won't offer you.
The firmware binaries were included in drivers before, they've been split to standalone files in later versions of the kernel. That's why 2.6.27 doesn't come with a -firmware package.
Thanks for the clarifications. Does the Arch installer let me choose the 'lts' kernel during install, or would I install & then 'downgrade' to it ? TIA ....
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William A. Mahaffey III
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