On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:11:40 +0200 Dieter Plaetinck wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:11:00 +0200 Øyvind Heggstad wrote:

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So you have to use 'hjkl' and so on. (which you should use anyway)

only on crappy (or 'suboptimal' for the political correct) keyboard layouts.

Dieter

When I used dvorak, I had the keyboard set up as querty in normal mode, and dvorak in insert mode. Worked nicely without me having to relearn the location of everything in normal mode :)

On Friday 16 October 2009 01:11:00 Øyvind Heggstad wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:59:59 +1100

richard terry wrote:

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Hi List,

I upgraded a couple of days ago not having done so for a number of weeks and now vi dosn't work properly in a konsole - the key allocations seem all wrong (eg up/down arrows, insert, delete > all print A', B' etc.

Clueless as to where to start.

Any help appreciated.

Richard

vi is now ex-vi, which behaves mostly like the original vi. So you have to use 'hjkl' and so on. (which you should use anyway)

ex-vi dosn't seem to be available as a package?where does one find it. Also I tried another's suggestiong about vim, but it conflicts with a file and I didn't want to force it in case there were problems ?any comments?

Targets (1): vim-7.2.266-1 Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 28.69 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y checking package integrity... (1/1) checking for file conflicts [######################################################################################################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) vim: /usr/bin/rview exists in filesystem Regards Richard

On Fri 16 Oct 2009 07:33 +1100, richard terry wrote:

On Friday 16 October 2009 01:11:00 Øyvind Heggstad wrote:

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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:59:59 +1100

richard terry wrote:

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Hi List,

I upgraded a couple of days ago not having done so for a number of weeks and now vi dosn't work properly in a konsole - the key allocations seem all wrong (eg up/down arrows, insert, delete > all print A', B' etc.

Clueless as to where to start.

Any help appreciated.

Richard

vi is now ex-vi, which behaves mostly like the original vi. So you have to use 'hjkl' and so on. (which you should use anyway)

ex-vi dosn't seem to be available as a package?where does one find it.

vi provides ex-vi. See `pacman -Si vi`

Also I tried another's suggestiong about vim, but it conflicts with a file and I didn't want to force it in case there were problems ?any comments?

Targets (1): vim-7.2.266-1

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) vim: /usr/bin/rview exists in filesystem

Try `pacman -Qo /usr/bin/rview` If no package owns it and you haven't created that file yourself, then it should be safe to force the install.