[arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait
Hello together, my question is about that if the toolchain update comes do i have to do it to get no problems with the rest of my system or can i wait if i find patches or hints to solve possible problems with my own packages? For the case that i can wait i will block the upgrade of this packages: * gcc{,-libs}-4.4.0-1 * glibc-2.9-7 * bintuils-2.9-7 * kernel-headers-2.6.29.1-1 And i will stay from this point on with kernel26-2.6.29.2-1. My next question is that i want to know if this will be enough or should i block more packages? The base is that i still stay with kde3 which i have packaged in the arch way (one package at example kdenetwork) but with the sources from kdemod3. It is no question that this is my problem and has to be solved only by myself but perhaps anyone has some good hints or a url to informations about it. See you, Attila
Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 20:41:57 schrieb Attila:
My next question is that i want to know if this will be enough or should i block more packages?
At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system with 4.3. So you either update to 4.4 (why not? where is the problem?) or stop updating at all. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 22:07 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system with 4.3.
Hmm, than the update is more a must than a "could be", thanks for the info.
So you either update to 4.4 (why not? where is the problem?) or stop updating at all.
Okay, the second point is not what i want. -) Perhaps i see a problem which is not a problem and i try to ask about what is the most important point for me: Do i have to recompile my local packages (at example qt3 or kde3*) after i do this update (gcc 4.3->4.4) because there is a so bump? If not, than i don't have to prevent the update because the nr.1 for me is to avoid having no GUI. See you, Attila
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:50 +0200, Attila wrote:
On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 22:07 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system with 4.3.
Hmm, than the update is more a must than a "could be", thanks for the info.
So you either update to 4.4 (why not? where is the problem?) or stop updating at all.
Okay, the second point is not what i want. -)
Perhaps i see a problem which is not a problem and i try to ask about what is the most important point for me: Do i have to recompile my local packages (at example qt3 or kde3*) after i do this update (gcc 4.3->4.4) because there is a so bump? If not, than i don't have to prevent the update because the nr.1 for me is to avoid having no GUI.
See you, Attila
gcc 4.4 is ABI compatible with 4.3 binaries, so this means you can compile and run software with 4.4 against libraries that were compiled against 4.3 without noticable problems. It appears you can load kernel modules compiled with 4.4 into a kernel that is built with 4.3, so even on the kernel side the compatibility is there, which is something I never expected to have.
On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 23:25 Jan de Groot wrote:
gcc 4.4 is ABI compatible with 4.3 binaries, so this means you can compile and run software with 4.4 against libraries that were compiled against 4.3 without noticable problems. It appears you can load kernel modules compiled with 4.4 into a kernel that is built with 4.3, so even on the kernel side the compatibility is there, which is something I never expected to have.
Thanks very much for this helpful informations and sorry for getting in a little panic about a problem which is not a problem. See you, Attila
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Attila
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Jan de Groot
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Pierre Schmitz