Hello everyone, So for the past few days I've been playing with Gentoo and Funtoo. I've learned a lot. I learned about something called Stage 4 and 5, which you can basically do to your system in order to make a backup copy of it, and put it in a tarball. I don't see any Wiki pages for this, so I was thinking that maybe I can write one once I learn more about it. Anyone think this is necessary? -- Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Jonathan Vasquez <jvasquez1011@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
So for the past few days I've been playing with Gentoo and Funtoo. I've learned a lot. I learned about something called Stage 4 and 5, which you can basically do to your system in order to make a backup copy of it, and put it in a tarball. I don't see any Wiki pages for this, so I was thinking that maybe I can write one once I learn more about it. Anyone think this is necessary?
If you mean it as a way to backup your system, sure, why not. There have been some ideas on the forum about creating a tar "install package" that you just untar to have a working Arch, but I've never seen a working example. You can move your packages to the new computer in order to avoid redownloading them. but backing them up is generally not necessary.
If you mean it as a way to backup your system, sure, why not. There have been some ideas on the forum about creating a tar "install package" that you just untar to have a working Arch, but I've never seen a working example.
You can move your packages to the new computer in order to avoid redownloading them. but backing them up is generally not necessary.
Hmm I think that would be easy to do since technically Arch ISOs are just snapshots at that current point in time. Which would mean that if I installed Arch and directly after an install I run the commands to create a tarball, that tarball would be the same as the Arch ISO (with extra configurations specific to the system). If someone wanted to install it, it would be similar as to installing gentoo. 1. Extract that tarball back into the system 2. Reconfigure the core files, add users, etc 3. Install GRUB (or any other bootloader) -- Jonathan Vasquez
So for the past few days I've been playing with Gentoo and Funtoo. I've learned a lot. I learned about something called Stage 4 and 5, which you can basically do to your system in order to make a backup copy of it, and put it in a tarball. I don't see any Wiki pages for this, so I was thinking that maybe I can write one once I learn more about it. Anyone think this is necessary?
And what it has to do with archwiki? Isn't anything on gentoo wiki? Anyway, I've heard about something like that last time I used a gentoo (say, about 2 years ago). The main purpose was to backup the basic system, and help deploying it on machines sharing the same config/hardware. -- Ivan Sichmann Freitas GNU/Linux user #509059
And what it has to do with archwiki? Isn't anything on gentoo wiki? Anyway, I've heard about something like that last time I used a gentoo (say, about 2 years ago). The main purpose was to backup the basic system, and help deploying it on machines sharing the same config/hardware. -- Ivan Sichmann Freitas GNU/Linux user #509059
Correct. You use it to back up and restore your system. What it has to do with Arch is more information inside the wiki. Specifically in relation of backups of the system and restoring (since that is the point of stage5). Since there isn't any information on this inside our quality documentation, why not add it? -- Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Vasquez <jvasquez1011@gmail.com> wrote:
What it has to do with Arch is more information inside the wiki.
We do have https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup#Not_incremental_backups "Just copy everything into one big archive, but support writing to cd/dvd"-type :-)
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Karol Blazewicz <karol.blazewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Vasquez <jvasquez1011@gmail.com> wrote:
What it has to do with Arch is more information inside the wiki.
We do have https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup#Not_incremental_backups "Just copy everything into one big archive, but support writing to cd/dvd"-type :-)
Haha yes, we have information on backing up, but I was specifically referring to Stage 5 backup. -- Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Jonathan Vasquez <jvasquez1011@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Karol Blazewicz <karol.blazewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Vasquez <jvasquez1011@gmail.com> wrote:
What it has to do with Arch is more information inside the wiki.
We do have https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup#Not_incremental_backups "Just copy everything into one big archive, but support writing to cd/dvd"-type :-)
Haha yes, we have information on backing up, but I was specifically referring to Stage 5 backup.
I don't mind the idea of documenting a comprehensive system backup/restore scheme or two. I really dislike the "Stage 4" / "Stage 5" terminology, because that feels way too gentoo-specific.
Haha yes, we have information on backing up, but I was specifically referring to Stage 5 backup.
I don't mind the idea of documenting a comprehensive system backup/restore scheme or two.
I really dislike the "Stage 4" / "Stage 5" terminology, because that feels way too gentoo-specific.
I guess Gentoo/Funtoo terminology has been rubbing onto me ;) -- Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Jason Melton <jason.melton@gmail.com> wrote:
I really dislike the "Stage 4" / "Stage 5" terminology, because that feels way too gentoo-specific.
Sure, we can drop the 'stage X' name but we should refer to it in the introduction.
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Ivan Sichmann Freitas
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Jonathan Vasquez
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