[arch-general] Trust This Computer?
Hi all. I've got an iPod touch fifth generation, iOS 7.1, and I am trying to mount it to my Arch Linux box so I can get all the music off it. However, when I connect the cable, I get an alert from the iPod asking if I trust the computer. I tell it trust, and the computer, running Gnome, says the iPod is locked by a passcode, which is not true. I did install libimobiledevice and gvfs and that didn't help. Any help or pointing in the right direction is very much appreciated.
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 18:22 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
Hi all. I've got an iPod touch fifth generation, iOS 7.1, and I am trying to mount it to my Arch Linux box so I can get all the music off it. However, when I connect the cable, I get an alert from the iPod asking if I trust the computer. I tell it trust, and the computer, running Gnome, says the iPod is locked by a passcode, which is not true. I did install libimobiledevice and gvfs and that didn't help. Any help or pointing in the right direction is very much appreciated.
That reminds me that I forgot to mark a thread as solved, I opened a while ago. I run iTunes on XP on a Vbox Arch Host. I needed to update XP from SP2 to SP3 and added the last certificates update too. JFTR I've got an iPad2 iOS 7.1.1. Even wine doesn't work. I recommend to run a Windows guest.
On 01/07/14 00:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 18:22 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
Hi all. I've got an iPod touch fifth generation, iOS 7.1, and I am trying to mount it to my Arch Linux box so I can get all the music off it. However, when I connect the cable, I get an alert from the iPod asking if I trust the computer. I tell it trust, and the computer, running Gnome, says the iPod is locked by a passcode, which is not true. I did install libimobiledevice and gvfs and that didn't help. Any help or pointing in the right direction is very much appreciated. That reminds me that I forgot to mark a thread as solved, I opened a while ago. I run iTunes on XP on a Vbox Arch Host. I needed to update XP from SP2 to SP3 and added the last certificates update too. JFTR I've got an iPad2 iOS 7.1.1. Even wine doesn't work. I recommend to run a Windows guest.
Hello, As the (unwilling) owner of an older iPod Touch, I also tried to use it on my Linux machine (and no, I'm not being Arch-specific here). I have tried many pieces of software and libraries to make the iPod and Linux communicate, and when I say "many", I mean **many**. libimobiledevice was one of my attempts, along with the Rythmbox iPod features. No matter what I tried, it has always been impossible for me to manage my iPod on a Linux machine. Just like R. Mardorf mentionned, the only solution I have found is to use a Windows guest (XP was enough) and share the iPod (USB > Apple iPod) device with it. This way, I was able to install iTunes and get full control on the iPod library. However, on Ubuntu, I remember accessing my iPod files by mounting the device as a usual USB storage. Yet, due to the way iOS manages its files (mp3 indexing, ...), you could hardly get anything from that... To me (yet I may be wrong), iOS support on Linux platforms has never been given much interest by developers communities ; in my opinion, this situation is not likely to change any time soon. Developing in the dark is nothing funny, as it happens to be an amazing waste of time in most cases. If you do find a way though, please don't hesitate to contact me. JWHS.
I've gotten it to mount, finally, because I was missing the ubsuxd package. But, for whatever reason, my files on the iPod have gotten garbled up, and abl the music files now have unintelligable folder and file names. As an example, I organize my music like so: ~/Music/artist/album/tracknumber trackname But that's not what happens. You go in to iTones_Control/Music to see your music files, but the folders under Music start out with F00 anto tr fxx, depending on how much music you've got. Under one of the F folders, you get files like ayx.mp3, dbnq.mp3, etc. And it's a random jumble of music from your collection, there is no ordered hierarchy at all. On 6/30/14, John WH Smith <jwhsmith@englandmail.com> wrote:
On 01/07/14 00:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 18:22 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
Hi all. I've got an iPod touch fifth generation, iOS 7.1, and I am trying to mount it to my Arch Linux box so I can get all the music off it. However, when I connect the cable, I get an alert from the iPod asking if I trust the computer. I tell it trust, and the computer, running Gnome, says the iPod is locked by a passcode, which is not true. I did install libimobiledevice and gvfs and that didn't help. Any help or pointing in the right direction is very much appreciated. That reminds me that I forgot to mark a thread as solved, I opened a while ago. I run iTunes on XP on a Vbox Arch Host. I needed to update XP from SP2 to SP3 and added the last certificates update too. JFTR I've got an iPad2 iOS 7.1.1. Even wine doesn't work. I recommend to run a Windows guest.
Hello,
As the (unwilling) owner of an older iPod Touch, I also tried to use it on my Linux machine (and no, I'm not being Arch-specific here). I have tried many pieces of software and libraries to make the iPod and Linux communicate, and when I say "many", I mean **many**.
libimobiledevice was one of my attempts, along with the Rythmbox iPod features. No matter what I tried, it has always been impossible for me to manage my iPod on a Linux machine. Just like R. Mardorf mentionned, the only solution I have found is to use a Windows guest (XP was enough) and share the iPod (USB > Apple iPod) device with it. This way, I was able to install iTunes and get full control on the iPod library.
However, on Ubuntu, I remember accessing my iPod files by mounting the device as a usual USB storage. Yet, due to the way iOS manages its files (mp3 indexing, ...), you could hardly get anything from that...
To me (yet I may be wrong), iOS support on Linux platforms has never been given much interest by developers communities ; in my opinion, this situation is not likely to change any time soon. Developing in the dark is nothing funny, as it happens to be an amazing waste of time in most cases.
If you do find a way though, please don't hesitate to contact me.
JWHS.
On 06/30/14 at 07:36pm, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
I've gotten it to mount, finally, because I was missing the ubsuxd package. But, for whatever reason, my files on the iPod have gotten garbled up, and abl the music files now have unintelligable folder and file names. As an example, I organize my music like so: ~/Music/artist/album/tracknumber trackname But that's not what happens. You go in to iTones_Control/Music to see your music files, but the folders under Music start out with F00 anto tr fxx, depending on how much music you've got. Under one of the F folders, you get files like ayx.mp3, dbnq.mp3, etc. And it's a random jumble of music from your collection, there is no ordered hierarchy at all.
I think this is actually just how iPods store the music actually. I remember on my old old iPod that things were "organized" in this way. You can thank Apple for this awesome setup... -- Curtis Shimamoto
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly. On 6/30/14, Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/30/14 at 07:36pm, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
I've gotten it to mount, finally, because I was missing the ubsuxd package. But, for whatever reason, my files on the iPod have gotten garbled up, and abl the music files now have unintelligable folder and file names. As an example, I organize my music like so: ~/Music/artist/album/tracknumber trackname But that's not what happens. You go in to iTones_Control/Music to see your music files, but the folders under Music start out with F00 anto tr fxx, depending on how much music you've got. Under one of the F folders, you get files like ayx.mp3, dbnq.mp3, etc. And it's a random jumble of music from your collection, there is no ordered hierarchy at all.
I think this is actually just how iPods store the music actually. I remember on my old old iPod that things were "organized" in this way. You can thank Apple for this awesome setup...
-- Curtis Shimamoto
Dual boot? On Jun 30, 2014 8:55 PM, "Hunter Jozwiak" <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
On 6/30/14, Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/30/14 at 07:36pm, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
I've gotten it to mount, finally, because I was missing the ubsuxd package. But, for whatever reason, my files on the iPod have gotten garbled up, and abl the music files now have unintelligable folder and file names. As an example, I organize my music like so: ~/Music/artist/album/tracknumber trackname But that's not what happens. You go in to iTones_Control/Music to see your music files, but the folders under Music start out with F00 anto tr fxx, depending on how much music you've got. Under one of the F folders, you get files like ayx.mp3, dbnq.mp3, etc. And it's a random jumble of music from your collection, there is no ordered hierarchy at all.
I think this is actually just how iPods store the music actually. I remember on my old old iPod that things were "organized" in this way. You can thank Apple for this awesome setup...
-- Curtis Shimamoto
Yes. On 6/30/14, Vincent Schumaker <vschum@gmail.com> wrote:
Dual boot? On Jun 30, 2014 8:55 PM, "Hunter Jozwiak" <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
On 6/30/14, Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/30/14 at 07:36pm, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
I've gotten it to mount, finally, because I was missing the ubsuxd package. But, for whatever reason, my files on the iPod have gotten garbled up, and abl the music files now have unintelligable folder and file names. As an example, I organize my music like so: ~/Music/artist/album/tracknumber trackname But that's not what happens. You go in to iTones_Control/Music to see your music files, but the folders under Music start out with F00 anto tr fxx, depending on how much music you've got. Under one of the F folders, you get files like ayx.mp3, dbnq.mp3, etc. And it's a random jumble of music from your collection, there is no ordered hierarchy at all.
I think this is actually just how iPods store the music actually. I remember on my old old iPod that things were "organized" in this way. You can thank Apple for this awesome setup...
-- Curtis Shimamoto
On 06/30/2014 08:54 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
If Apple kept the ID3 metadata in the files intact, a program (such as EasyTag) should be able to use that metadata to sort the files into a sensible structure. -Isaac
How does EasyTagger work? I've copied the jumbled stuff over to disc, now I ned to find a way to get it to conform to my desired hierarchy. On 6/30/14, Isaac Dupree <ml@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> wrote:
On 06/30/2014 08:54 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
If Apple kept the ID3 metadata in the files intact, a program (such as EasyTag) should be able to use that metadata to sort the files into a sensible structure.
-Isaac
I can't say anything about EasyTag but I recommend puddletag to fix the directory hierarchy. In puddletag you can just open the whole folder with the files, then enter something like "%artist%/%album%/%track% %title%" in the format field and click on the bold `F` (tags to filename) Quoting Hunter Jozwiak (2014-07-01 04:10:19)
How does EasyTagger work? I've copied the jumbled stuff over to disc, now I ned to find a way to get it to conform to my desired hierarchy.
On 6/30/14, Isaac Dupree <ml@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> wrote:
On 06/30/2014 08:54 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
If Apple kept the ID3 metadata in the files intact, a program (such as EasyTag) should be able to use that metadata to sort the files into a sensible structure.
-Isaac
This is obvious but i will say it anyways. Have you done any research on getting a network connection to the device? Maybe a port scan will reveal something or a look into the app store for ftp? On 2014-06-30 21:10, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
How does EasyTagger work? I've copied the jumbled stuff over to disc, now I ned to find a way to get it to conform to my desired hierarchy.
On 6/30/14, Isaac Dupree <ml@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> wrote:
On 06/30/2014 08:54 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
How on Earth do I import all my tunes in an orderly and organized manner? Windows is out of the question here, since my computer doesn't have enough metal to run it properly.
If Apple kept the ID3 metadata in the files intact, a program (such as EasyTag) should be able to use that metadata to sort the files into a sensible structure.
-Isaac
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:22:08 -0400 Hunter Jozwiak <hunter.t.joz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all. I've got an iPod touch fifth generation, iOS 7.1, and I am trying to mount it to my Arch Linux box so I can get all the music off it. However, when I connect the cable, I get an alert from the iPod asking if I trust the computer. I tell it trust, and the computer, running Gnome, says the iPod is locked by a passcode, which is not true. I did install libimobiledevice and gvfs and that didn't help. Any help or pointing in the right direction is very much appreciated.
This topic generated a thread of more than 1300 posts in alt.os.linux recently. I /think/ the original poster did find a solution eventually. It starts here (on 17th May): Subject: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.ubuntu Message-ID: <2d669$53777a39$43da7656$8337@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> Or for those unable to access usenet properly, <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.os.linux/_e0czhOYSHo/discussion> -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~
participants (9)
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Curtis Shimamoto
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Hunter Jozwiak
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Isaac Dupree
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jaywarren＠birddogg.org
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Johannes Altmanninger
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John WH Smith
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Ralf Mardorf
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Vincent Schumaker
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Whiskers