I'm not quite sure where it is, but if you have the time to search, there is a thread on the arch bbs about doing exactly what you want. A lot of applications and hints/tips are in there. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Juan Diego wrote:

mplayer also has a fb output plugin

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Hi,

Do you think it's possible to live without X, replacing framebuffer for it, using packages available for arch? I imagine something like DirectFB or similar, using it when text is not enough. I think I could do with a browser and a pdf viewer, but I wasn't able to find a direction to follow to get that. Has any of you tried it already?

Thanks, Maurício

You can use fbgs from fbida package to see pdf's, and a browser like w3m-graphics or links-g.

And yes, it is possible.

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You can use fbgs from fbida package to see pdf's, and a browser like w3m-graphics or links-g. And yes, it is possible.

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I'm not quite sure where it is, but if you have the time to search, there is a thread on the arch bbs about doing exactly what you want. (...)

Thanks for all tips.

I'm also concerned about the terminal itself. Unicode is important to me, and today I use 'mlterm' with 'Liberation' font. Can I get the same with a framebuffer terminal?

Maurício

If by same you mean getting unicode on a virtual console, then yes its possible. I think the lat2-16.psfu.gz font (which you can set in your rc.conf) is unicode. Gerald Otter

I don't know about inserting unicode characters, but I tested the lat2 font for handling unicode a few days ago. It seems accents and certain cyrillic characters work ok, but japanese, korean etc do not work. I guess it just provides a unicode mapping, but not all unicode characters. I haven't tested all the consolefonts available in arch though. Gerald Otter On 11:49 Mon 06 Apr , Maurício wrote:

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> Do you think it's possible to live without X, replacing framebuffer > for it, using packages available for arch? (...) > You can use fbgs from fbida package to see pdf's, and a browser > like w3m-graphics or links-g. And yes, it is possible. mplayer also has a fb output plugin I'm not quite sure where it is, but if you have the time to search, there is a thread on the arch bbs about doing exactly what you want. (...) Thanks for all tips.

I'm also concerned about the terminal itself. Unicode is important to me, and today I use 'mlterm' with 'Liberation' font. Can I get the same with a framebuffer terminal?

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If by same you mean getting unicode on a virtual console, then yes its possible. I think the lat2-16.psfu.gz font (which you can set in your rc.conf) is unicode.

Choosed lat2 and it's a nice font.

How do I type unicode in a Linux terminal (i.e., using the number code for a character that is not available with my keyboard map)? This is something I looked everywhere and found no answer.

Thanks, Maurício

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Do you think it's possible to live without X, replacing framebuffer for it, using packages available for arch?

Just curious why would you want to not use x on a daily basis?

No serious reason. There are many nice X applications. Most things I like to do in a computer, however, require only 'ed' and a few tools and compilers.

Le Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:03:37 -0600, Sergey Manucharian a écrit :

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:29:46 +0900 Juan Diego wrote:

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mplayer does good job with "-vo aa" or "-vo caca", personally I prefer "aa" ;)

mplayer -vo vesa/fbdev/svga/sdl may do the trick as well... -- radio ianux - http://ianux.fr/

saving the polar bears is another aspect :)) Less energy usage, less polution ... Tom Felipe Tanus wrote:

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Saving memory may be relative... you can also think that you aren't use 100% of your PC if you have 2GB memory and uses only 300k :)

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Le Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:03:37 -0600, Sergey Manucharian a écrit :

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:29:46 +0900 Juan Diego wrote:

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mplayer also has a fb output plugin

mplayer does good job with "-vo aa" or "-vo caca", personally I prefer "aa" ;)

mplayer -vo vesa/fbdev/svga/sdl may do the trick as well...

-- radio ianux - http://ianux.fr/

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:47:50 -0400 Lucas Salies Brum wrote:

I only use the X when I draw or watch a video, rather well, as saving memory.

There is a very interesting package that can watch videos without FB, only in text mode, it is called aaxine and cacaxine. Also use the mplayer with the FB, but i dont like. =D

Many graphics make me confused =D

Best regards, Lucas Saliés Brum

P.S.: Você é do Brasil?

2009/3/29 Maurí­cio

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Hi,

Do you think it's possible to live without X, replacing framebuffer for it, using packages available for arch? I imagine something like DirectFB or similar, using it when text is not enough. I think I could do with a browser and a pdf viewer, but I wasn't able to find a direction to follow to get that. Has any of you tried it already?

Thanks, Maurício

I also saw an app once that was called FBI, I think it was also used to view videos without X. --Philipp

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The guy who writes this blog has had a few posts on living without X recently, not sure which distro that was with.

Helps if I include the link doesnt it, here it ishttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/

Nice recomended applications. I think the main problem, however, is that I still depend on X to get a nice terminal. I can't find a way to type unicode, or a console font that covers a good amount of unicode. Thanks, Maurício

Do you know where can I find documentation on fbdev? Framebuffer howton is really old (2000), and web site has no doc links. Thanks, Maurício

A good font for unicode is terminal. Ive tried no x on an old box few years ago. Directfb was interesting, but not really useful by then. Their homepage contains many interesting projects, like a graphical and eye-candy login manager.

I rather used the basic fbdev. Sdl can output to it, thats really handy. Gpmouse, if i remember well, can provide mouse support in vconsoles. Using some drivers, links can be a good basic browser - no net banking though. Mplayer for video. Moc, mpd or another curses mp3 player for audio. By the time i had to play around to have lines character working in a unicode console with ncurses. There are console tools to convert office docs to pdf, via postscript i guess, but recent format might not be supported. I had almost everything needed for basic use, and that was running pretty fast on this old comp. Besides, showing a video played through aalib always impress people (supported by sdl too i think).

Im sorry there are lot of uncertitudes and no links, but im using a cell phone from thailand - really cheap compared to belgium costs.

Good luck, good fun,

charly

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The guy who writes this blog has had a few posts on living without X recently, not sure which distro that was with.

Helps if I include the link doesnt it, here it ishttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/

Nice recomended applications.

I think the main problem, however, is that I still depend on X to get a nice terminal. I can't find a way to type unicode, or a console font that covers a good amount of unicode.

Thanks, Maurício