Hi there, since update to 3.14 I cannot log on with the keyboard in GDM. It works when using the screen keyboard or when loggin in the console:-O KR Frank
Am 2014-11-05 20:38, schrieb Frank Zimmermann:
Hi there,
since update to 3.14 I cannot log on with the keyboard in GDM. It works when using the screen keyboard or when loggin in the console:-O
KR Frank
Hi maybe you have an german keyboard layout? I think with the update of gnome the german keyboard layout will be overwritten. German link: http://linuxundich.de/gnu-linux/nach-update-auf-gnome-3-14-englisches-tastat... best regards Akendo
Am Mittwoch, den 05.11.2014, 21:25 +0100 schrieb akendo@akendo.eu:
Hi maybe you have an german keyboard layout? I think with the update of gnome the german keyboard layout will be overwritten. German link: http://linuxundich.de/gnu-linux/nach-update-auf-gnome-3-14-englisches-tastat...
best regards Akendo
Yes I do have a German keyboard layout. However, the link you sent is of no help since when I followit I do not have the chance to change the keyboard settings for GDM (Anmeldebildschirm). For the non Geman speaking readres, the link suggest to go to settings-keyboard. In the bottom left is a link that leads to the language and region settings where on the screenshot of Akendo's link there is the opportunity to click on the top right on login view whichI do not have :-O KR Frank
Am Donnerstag, den 06.11.2014, 06:07 +0100 schrieb Frank Zimmermann:
Yes I do have a German keyboard layout. However, the link you sent is of no help since when I followit I do not have the chance to change the keyboard settings for GDM (Anmeldebildschirm). For the non Geman speaking readres, the link suggest to go to settings-keyboard. In the bottom left is a link that leads to the language and region settings where on the screenshot of Akendo's link there is the opportunity to click on the top right on login view whichI do not have :-O
KR Frank
This is really weird. I've checked on another machine and there is the possibility to change keyboard layout for GDM in the Gnome Control Center, but not here! KR Frank
On 11/12/2014 08:08 PM, Frank Zimmermann wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 06.11.2014, 06:07 +0100 schrieb Frank Zimmermann:
Yes I do have a German keyboard layout. However, the link you sent is of no help since when I followit I do not have the chance to change the keyboard settings for GDM (Anmeldebildschirm). For the non Geman speaking readres, the link suggest to go to settings-keyboard. In the bottom left is a link that leads to the language and region settings where on the screenshot of Akendo's link there is the opportunity to click on the top right on login view whichI do not have :-O
KR Frank
This is really weird. I've checked on another machine and there is the possibility to change keyboard layout for GDM in the Gnome Control Center, but not here! KR Frank
Do you have IBus installed? -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.
Am Mittwoch, den 12.11.2014, 20:51 +0100 schrieb Armin K.:
This is really weird. I've checked on another machine and there is the possibility to change keyboard layout for GDM in the Gnome Control Center, but not here! KR Frank
Do you have IBus installed?
Now I have without any difference. KR Frank
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:02:37 +0100 Frank Zimmermann <frank.zimmermann.berlin@freenet.de> wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 12.11.2014, 20:51 +0100 schrieb Armin K.:
This is really weird. I've checked on another machine and there is the possibility to change keyboard layout for GDM in the Gnome Control Center, but not here! KR Frank
Do you have IBus installed?
Now I have without any difference.
Did you set up the keyboard layout by a X config? If not, try this: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf Section "InputClass" Identifier "keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "yes" Option "XkbLayout" "de" #Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" JFTR did you try to log in by "translating" the us keyboard mapping to the German one? You can search for the correct keys by simply pushing the keys, when you're ask for the username, chars as e.g. "-" are somewhere else on a German keyboard.
Am Donnerstag, den 13.11.2014, 08:21 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Did you set up the keyboard layout by a X config? If not, try this:
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf Section "InputClass" Identifier "keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "yes" Option "XkbLayout" "de" #Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
doesn't do the trick
JFTR did you try to log in by "translating" the us keyboard mapping to the German one? You can search for the correct keys by simply pushing the keys, when you're ask for the username, chars as e.g. "-" are somewhere else on a German keyboard.
yes that works. Still there's something wrong I suppose with gnome-control-center. KR Frank
IMHO you shouldn't waste your time with fixing this issue. I'm using lightdm with the lightdm-gtk3-greeter, it's possible to use it without a greeter and JFTR there's also lightdm-gtk2-greeter available and IIRC a few others. Btw. I don't know if there is the need to install a X driver or if it's already installed as a Xorg dependency, to get the Xorg conf for a keyboard working. I run into the same issue as you in the past, but I don't remember what display manager I used. Unfortunately my user password includes two chars that are different for my DE keyboard, when I need to login with US settings.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
IMHO you shouldn't waste your time with fixing this issue.
Strong words for somebody who modifies his CHOST in his MUA. xD Using y, z and special characters in all my passwords, thanks for making Frank look bad here. cheers! mar77i
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:46 +0100 Martti Kühne <mysatyre@gmail.com> wrote:
Using y, z and special characters in all my passwords, thanks for making Frank look bad here.
I didn't, I use special character for my password and run into the same issue several times.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:58:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:46 +0100 Martti Kühne <mysatyre@gmail.com> wrote:
Using y, z and special characters in all my passwords, thanks for making Frank look bad here.
I didn't, I use special character for my password and run into the same issue several times.
IOW I don't recommend to change the password, I recommend to change the display manager ;).
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:58:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:46 +0100 Martti Kühne <mysatyre@gmail.com> wrote:
Using y, z and special characters in all my passwords, thanks for making Frank look bad here.
I didn't, I use special character for my password and run into the same issue several times.
IOW I don't recommend to change the password, I recommend to change the display manager ;).
You're not making it better by suggesting to install pulseaudio. Are you Lennart's long lost little brother? cheers! mar77i
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:06:46 +0100 Martti Kühne <mysatyre@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:58:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:46 +0100 Martti Kühne <mysatyre@gmail.com> wrote:
Using y, z and special characters in all my passwords, thanks for making Frank look bad here.
I didn't, I use special character for my password and run into the same issue several times.
IOW I don't recommend to change the password, I recommend to change the display manager ;).
You're not making it better by suggesting to install pulseaudio. Are you Lennart's long lost little brother?
My apologies, I didn't think about that. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi pulseaudio Name : pulseaudio Version : 2013.08.18-1 Description : Dummy package [snip] I don't care if a package has got a hard dependency to PA or if not. Since the OP is using GDM, I suspect he anyway has got a hard dependency to PA, unless he isn't using [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse Name : gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse Version : 3.14.1-1 Description : The GNOME Settings daemon without PulseAudio [snip] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Si gdm [snip] Depends On : gnome-shell [snip] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Si gnome-shell [snip] Depends On : [snip] gnome-settings-daemon [snip] Regards, Ralf
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:39:35 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
IMHO you shouldn't waste your time with fixing this issue.
I'm using lightdm with the lightdm-gtk3-greeter, it's possible to use it without a greeter and JFTR there's also lightdm-gtk2-greeter available and IIRC a few others.
Btw. I don't know if there is the need to install a X driver or if it's already installed as a Xorg dependency, to get the Xorg conf for a keyboard working.
I run into the same issue as you in the past, but I don't remember what display manager I used. Unfortunately my user password includes two chars that are different for my DE keyboard, when I need to login with US settings.
PS: On another install I use KDM, it also doesn't cause trouble.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
IMHO you shouldn't waste your time with fixing this issue.
Actually changing display managers won't necessarily solve the problem concerning the keyboard layout. Setting the correct layout and variant in xorg.conf{,.d/10-evdev.conf} is the right track after all. cheers! mar77i
Am Freitag, den 14.11.2014, 13:16 +0100 schrieb Martti Kühne:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
IMHO you shouldn't waste your time with fixing this issue.
Actually changing display managers won't necessarily solve the problem concerning the keyboard layout. Setting the correct layout and variant in xorg.conf{,.d/10-evdev.conf} is the right track after all.
cheers! mar77i
systemd-localed was setting the X11 keyboard layout to en. With the tool localectl this can be changed and it's working now. KR Frank
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akendo＠akendo.eu
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Armin K.
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Frank Zimmermann
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Martti Kühne
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Ralf Mardorf