Hi, On all my installations with systemd I am seeing strange errors in journal/syslog on shutdown. For simplicity, I use "systemctl poweroff" w/o X. The error is either ---------------- Nov 18 16:37:26 bluemoon login: pam_systemd(login:session): Failed to connect to system bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. ---------------- or ---------------- Nov 13 18:00:02 bluemoon systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Nov 13 18:00:02 bluemoon systemd[1]: Stopped Login Service. Nov 13 18:00:02 bluemoon systemd[1]: Unit systemd-logind.service entered failed state ---------------- I can only achieve "clean" shutdown if all users are logged out and the power button is pressed. Somehow, if I simply stop/start systemd-logind.service it restarts cleanly. So there seems to be a race on shutdown between systemd-logind and something else (login?). I have seen similar problems on the web, but noone seems to care... Any idea how I can get more info about/debug this? TIA PS: And yes, the above error occurs independently of the value of KillUserProcesses. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D