[arch-general] mail client
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish? has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker? alternatively, what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one? I want a better program. andrew
On 02/11/2010 11:54 AM, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I'm using TB3 for quite a long time (since its release in arch repos). I like it, and I don't find it slow. Must some some FS related issue. Which FS are you using for /home ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com
On 11/02/10 16:54, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 02/11/2010 11:54 AM, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I'm using TB3 for quite a long time (since its release in arch repos). I like it, and I don't find it slow. Must some some FS related issue.
Which FS are you using for /home ?
I find its proxy support lacking (I have to click OK for my password for every RSS feed I have...), but once I got rid of that stupid toolbar in the message header (CustomizeHeaderToolbar extension), I am reasonably happy with it.
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:24:08 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan <lists@itech7.com> wrote:
On 02/11/2010 11:54 AM, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I'm using TB3 for quite a long time (since its release in arch repos). I like it, and I don't find it slow. Must some some FS related issue.
Which FS are you using for /home ?
you could try claws-mail or sylpheed. or kmail or .. Dieter
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:24:30AM -0500, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
If you use POP3, try Claws Mail. It got everything you needed (mail, newsgroup, etc.) and are quite lightweight and very stable.
* Smith Dhumbumroong <zodmaner@gmail.com> [11.02.2010 08:48]:
If you use POP3, try Claws Mail. It got everything you needed (mail, newsgroup, etc.) and are quite lightweight and very stable.
+1 Claws Mail was and still is my favorite GUI Mail application. Now I use mutt, but that's not what you are looking for.
On 02/10/2010 11:24 PM, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I actually just changed to Thunderbird from Evolution. Evolution is nice, but much too heavy for what I need (just email). v3 added threading (or maybe I just missed it until now), which makes the arch mailing list readable. If you're having trouble with Thunderbird and want something similar, Evolution is about the same, and maybe you won't have the same problem with it.
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:24:30 +0100, andrew james <andrew@systemssingular.com> wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I've been using Opera's Mail client. It is a no nonsense mail client with support for all above and it integrates with Opera itself obviously. It is closed source and not in the official repo's but you can find it in AUR. When TB3 came out I've tried to switch in combination with uzbl or firefox and kick the last closed source app off my laptop. But TB3 is terrible imho. I've also tried Claws/Sylpheed for a while but that interface is so spartan and I don't know if it has NNTP support. In the end you should try at least Opera and Claws to see which fits your needs. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jeroen@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Use bottom posting: http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jeroen Op 't Eynde <jeroen@xprsyrslf.be>wrote: I've been using Opera's Mail client. It is a no nonsense mail client with
support for all above and it integrates with Opera itself obviously. It is closed source and not in the official repo's but you can find it in AUR.
It is also available from the archlinux.fr repo. opera's feed reader is also awesome, but still my love for firefox makes me avoid it.
On 02/11/2010 01:24 AM, andrew james wrote:
i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish?
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
andrew
I've had problems with it, but not those. My issues were: * kept showing all the read emails in a folder as unread (solved by setting mail.server.default.use_condstore to false) * hogged up CPU and disk space with indexing (solved by setting "Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Advanced Configuration -> Enable Global Search and Indexer" to off) * showed unread folders in a weird color (solved by changes to the userChrome.css file) * buttons missing from top toolbar (solved by "Help -> Migration Assistant -> Use original toolbar") In other words, I wound up wasting about an entire day (!) surfing around the web trying to figure out how to undo all the "features" that they added for 3.0 that broke all the functionality that I relied on. (Sigh.) Since then, though, I'm pretty fine with it. I've still got one little peeve I haven't figured out yet: how to restore the behavior where it displays a little shiny icon/indicator when a folder has new unread mail in it. (Probably another tweak to the userChrome.css file, I'm guessing, but I don't know what OTTOMH.) DR
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:24:30 -0500, andrew james <andrew@systemssingular.com> wrote:
has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3?
yes, see some older thread on the ML.
any switch values to cause it to work quicker?
enabling "offline reading" seems to fix some of my issues
alternatively,
what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one?
I want a better program.
after i had to abandon thundersuck, i tried quite a lot of alternatives. Here is an incomplete wiki entry on usable muas from a heresy perspective: http://hereticlinux.org/wiki/email
thank you for all the perspectives. fs, filesystem is raid10, ext4 for documents, mail. filesystem of system/programs is raid 1, ext4 it may try more switches to quicken the program. David, thank you for the reminder of userChrome.css. nobody wrote of the worst problem, inconsistent view columns, that you must conform per fold, also every news group, there are too many folds to conform them all manually. this bug is reported, but was tentatively explained as a 'feature' there is definitely something happening, even as I type the text lags...no other programs are like this.q
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Allan McRae
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andrew james
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Arvid Picciani
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Brendan Long
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David Rosenstrauch
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Dieter Plaetinck
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Jeroen Op 't Eynde
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Nilesh Govindarajan
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Smith Dhumbumroong
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Uli Armbruster