[arch-general] Black screen with linux-3.4.2
Hi, I've recently upgraded to linux-3.4.2 only to endeavor that it isn't bootable with my hardware. Basically my screen gets black during boot-up and remains so without anything I can do about it. I've got a Nvidia GPU (310M) driven by nouveau, which worked reasonably fine for the last couple of months. I can remember that there was exactly the same issue with kernels prior to 2.6.38 (or 2.6.39?), so I'm quite unhappy about the regression. I haven't looked much into it yet, just wanted to know whether anyone is also affected by this and/or whether or not this is already known (to the kernel developers)? Otherwise I would probably have to mail to some kernel developing list, wouldn't I? Best regards, Karol Babioch
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 14:21 +0200, Karol Babioch wrote:
linux-3.4.2 Nvidia GPU (310M) driven by nouveau
3.4.2-rt10-1-rt x86_64 does work with the nv driver and a GeForce 7200GS, aka 7300 SE. I always run into trouble with nouveau, but for the last months with kernel-rt < 3.4.2-rt10-1-rt X couldn't start using the nv driver. For the Arch linux (not linux-rt) kernels there never where issues with X, while using the nvidia driver. Last and current version on Arch here is 3.3.8-1. A script is switching between nv and nvidia at startup, regarding to the kernel I'll boot. This list not only is scrappy regarding to the number of cards, but also doesn't provide for all contingencies: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/HardwareStatus I only can portend to audio real-time, while for my gfx card are already issues without audio real-time usage. Dunno if you ask, because you do development for the driver or the kernel. For all people who want a stable desktop, nouveau IMO seldom is a good choice.
Hi, to be honest, I didn't want to start a discussion about the nouveau driver vs. the Nvidia one. Am 15.06.2012 14:49, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Dunno if you ask, because you do development for the driver or the kernel. No, if I would, I probably wouldn't have to ask ;).
For all people who want a stable desktop, nouveau IMO seldom is a good choice. I made the opposing experience within the last couple of years several times. nouveau works out of the box and does integrate with the rest of
Am 15.06.2012 14:49, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: the system quite well. The proprietary blob made some issues with switching between X and TTY for my setup the last time I tried. From my experience nouveau is just not as good as the Nvidia one when it comes down to 3D performance and/or energy management. Hopefully this will get better in future releases ;). However the problem remains :(. Best regards, Karol Babioch
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 15:27 +0200, Karol Babioch wrote:
From my experience nouveau is just not as good as the Nvidia one when it comes down to 3D performance and/or energy management.
3D and energy management can be important, but isn't needed by everybody. If you want to run this kernel and don't need 3D, the nv driver might work, it at least does on my machine with the rt patched version of the kernel you wish to use. http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/xf86-video-nv/ http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xf86-video-nv/ I hope it won't be dropped by Arch. Other distros dropped it. - Ralf
Am 15.06.2012 16:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/xf86-video-nv/ http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xf86-video-nv/
I hope it won't be dropped by Arch. Other distros dropped it.
It will be dropped, as it isn't developped anymore and will soon be incompatible with xorg-server.
Am 15.06.2012 14:21, schrieb Karol Babioch:
Hi,
I've recently upgraded to linux-3.4.2 only to endeavor that it isn't bootable with my hardware. Basically my screen gets black during boot-up and remains so without anything I can do about it.
I've got a Nvidia GPU (310M) driven by nouveau, which worked reasonably fine for the last couple of months.
I can remember that there was exactly the same issue with kernels prior to 2.6.38 (or 2.6.39?), so I'm quite unhappy about the regression.
I haven't looked much into it yet, just wanted to know whether anyone is also affected by this and/or whether or not this is already known (to the kernel developers)? Otherwise I would probably have to mail to some kernel developing list, wouldn't I?
Best regards, Karol Babioch
Hi, I have the same problem on my laptop and reported the bug weeks ago: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50175 no reaction from the developers yet, maybe it will get more attention if you comment on the bug report and confirm the issue.
Hi, Am 15.06.2012 18:08, schrieb Mus:
no reaction from the developers yet, maybe it will get more attention if you comment on the bug report and confirm the issue Thanks for the link. Have already commented there. However I made the experience in the past that bug trackers are not that popular for kernel development. Seems that most stuff is going on on mailing lists.
Interestingly enough I've got a Sony VAIO (VPCS12C5E), just like you. Probably Sony screwed something up here. I've just mailed on the developers list. Hopefully someone will look into it. Best regards, Karol Babioch
Hi, Am 15.06.2012 18:08, schrieb Mus:
I have the same problem on my laptop and reported the bug weeks ago:
I just want to let you people know that there seems to be a working patch over at the kernel bugzilla, see [1]. I've already mentioned it in the bug tracker mentioned above, but I'm posting it here just in case someone is also affected by it and doesn't follow the freedesktop.org bug tracker. Best regards, Karol Babioch [1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=73576
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