On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 08:04:27AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I tried setting up emacspeak and emacspeak needs two variables exported to the user's .profile file in order to work. The EMACSPEAK_DIR variable needs to point at the location of emacspeak and DTK_PROGRAM needs to point at the speech server you intend to use.

The export commands did not create a .profile file for me nor did they update a .profile file for me with their contents in it.

I don't think the 'export' bash built-in command works how you think it works. Read up on it, you'll encounter it frequently. Seriously, do it, I'll be waiting, and it'll probably solve your problem right away.

Using echo to create and populate the .profile also has no good effect.

Well, you *could* do that, and that would work if done correctly, too, but it's probably easier for you to use an editor. Still no dice? Please allow me to elaborate. I'll keep things simple, or at least try to. When a user logs into an Arch Linux system, a lot of stuff is done automatically, not entirely unlike the "Autostart" feature of certain other operating systems. Instead of running dozens of applications, though, the linux mechanism is primarily used to "set up your environment". The PATH where to look for programs, how the command prompt is supposed to look like in your terminals, the location of installed Java environments, your language, as well as any settings specific to certain applications, as in your case here for emacspeak. An user's environment is set up in the /home/<user>/.profile text file, among others like .bashrc and .bash_profile for instance. Don't bother about the subtle difference between those files right now, but if you do, it's "explained" in the bash man page. Open the file /home/<user>/.profile in an editor of your choice, and append these lines to the very end: export EMACSPEAK_DIR=/path/to/the/directory export DTK_PROGRAM=<the server of your choice> If this file does not exist, yet, just write these two lines in a new, empty file and save it as a new .profile in your home directory. This file is only read and used for your initial login, and it's settings are "inherited" by any following applications. You should therefore log out completely and log in back again, or restart altogether if you're not absolutely sure about being logged out "enough". Just opening a new terminal in X11 and trying emacspeak will NOT work right away. After relogging in, open a terminal and try running echo $DTK_PROGRAM Tab completion should work, and you should be presented with the value you set in your .profile. If not, something went wrong there. If you ARE presented your value, try running emacspeak. If that doesn't work as intended, your problem is elsewhere. Maybe the name of the DTK server you chose wasn't correct in the first place. You might then contemplate adding a new file called /etc/profile.d/emacspeak.sh owned by user and group 'root' with 0755 rights to your system, with these two export lines. This will then be a system-wide setting for all users, properly installed where expected. You may then remove these exports from your user's .profile again.

about to use git to pull the current version of emacspeak down onto this system and try with that but I downloaded and built eflite and emacspeak that's on this machine from the aur repository.

You might want to add a comment that such an export is missing, lest it be included in a new version by the maintainer.

Fortunately, I can test emacspeak on debian without much difficulty and may need to check out where debian stores those export variables since the debian version I have made work in the past.

Remember that the values you have to set may be different. It's unlikely a simple setting like an environment variable is not working on your system. When you're still having trouble, post your not working .profile so we know what you're trying to do. It might be obvious to us. Best regards, Dennis

Manolo Martínez, Mon 2012-03-12 @ 05:52:51-0400:

Hi, this morning we had DST kick in in New York. When I woke up (8:30) the clock showed 4:30. I have

HARDWARECLOCK="UTC" TIMEZONE="America/New_York"

in rc.conf. I've since changed the time manually, but wanted to give the heads up, in case there is somethng somwehere that needs fixing.

I'm in the same time zone and my clock updated without any problems. Not that that helps you at all, but I don't think it's a problem with the tzdata or anything.

Martin Zecher, Sun 2012-03-11 @ 12:35:58-0400:

Do you use systemd?

No, just initscripts.

Manolo Martínez, Sun 2012-03-11 @ 14:00:32-0400:

I see, thank you. I've just moved from hwclock to ntpd and it is sinchronising correctly. Are you using hwclock?

I'm using ntpd. If your time skew occurred when using the hwclock daemon without NTP, then my guess would be that your motherboard battery is dead/dying so the hardware RTC is losing time.

Heiko Baums writes:

Am Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:18:43 +0800 schrieb XeCycle :

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Aren't you supposed to edit ~/.profile by hand?

Isn't the correct file to set such environment variables locally ~/.bash_profile resp. ~/.bashrc?

Not everyone uses bash as the default shell, you can also source ~/.profile in your bash_profile if you like. -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591

Hi, this morning we had DST kick in in New York. When I woke up (8:30) the clock showed 4:30. I have HARDWARECLOCK="UTC" TIMEZONE="America/New_York" in rc.conf. I've since changed the time manually, but wanted to give the heads up, in case there is somethng somwehere that needs fixing. Cheers, Manolo