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Brendan Long

13 Apr 2012 13 Apr '12

2:40 a.m.

Hi, I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious. Brendan

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Zachary (Asian)

14 Apr 14 Apr

2:38 a.m.

My guess is that they switched from adding features to removing bloat, which results in a smaller filesize. On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Brendan Long wrote:

Hi,

I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious.

Brendan

Brendan Long

5:02 p.m.

It's just strange that it's happening so consistently, like again today: Targets (7): dbus-1.4.20-1 dbus-core-1.4.20-2 dbus-python-1.0.0-1 mkinitcpio-0.8.7-2 qt-4.8.1-2 xorg-server-1.12.1-1 xorg-server-common-1.12.1-1 Total Download Size: 21.59 MiB Total Installed Size: 96.40 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -0.93 MiB On 04/13/2012 08:38 PM, Zachary (Asian) wrote:

My guess is that they switched from adding features to removing bloat, which results in a smaller filesize.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Brendan Long wrote:

...
Hi,

I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious.

Brendan

Victor Silva

5:08 p.m.

My guess is they are shipping less embedded libs. Em 14 de abril de 2012 14:02, Brendan Long escreveu:

It's just strange that it's happening so consistently, like again today:

Targets (7): dbus-1.4.20-1 dbus-core-1.4.20-2 dbus-python-1.0.0-1 mkinitcpio-0.8.7-2 qt-4.8.1-2 xorg-server-1.12.1-1 xorg-server-common-1.12.1-1

Total Download Size: 21.59 MiB Total Installed Size: 96.40 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -0.93 MiB

On 04/13/2012 08:38 PM, Zachary (Asian) wrote:

...
My guess is that they switched from adding features to removing bloat, which results in a smaller filesize.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Brendan Long wrote:

...
Hi,

I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious.

Brendan

Muhammed Uluyol

15 Apr 15 Apr

1:42 a.m.

It looks like they are being compressed with upx. Muhammed Uluyol On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Victor Silva wrote:

My guess is they are shipping less embedded libs.

Em 14 de abril de 2012 14:02, Brendan Long escreveu:

...
It's just strange that it's happening so consistently, like again today:

Targets (7): dbus-1.4.20-1 dbus-core-1.4.20-2 dbus-python-1.0.0-1 mkinitcpio-0.8.7-2 qt-4.8.1-2 xorg-server-1.12.1-1 xorg-server-common-1.12.1-1

Total Download Size: 21.59 MiB Total Installed Size: 96.40 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -0.93 MiB

On 04/13/2012 08:38 PM, Zachary (Asian) wrote:

...
My guess is that they switched from adding features to removing bloat, which results in a smaller filesize.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Brendan Long wrote:

...
Hi,

I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious.

Brendan

Allan McRae

2:24 a.m.

On 15/04/12 11:42, Muhammed Uluyol wrote:

It looks like they are being compressed with upx.

Wrong... On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Victor Silva wrote:

My guess is they are shipping less embedded libs.

Wrong... On 04/13/2012 08:38 PM, Zachary (Asian) wrote:

My guess is that they switched from adding features to removing bloat, which results in a smaller filesize.

Wrong... On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Brendan Long wrote:

Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something?

Well, gcc-4.7 just was released... So the initial question probably contains the answer.

Damjan

17 Apr 17 Apr

1:23 a.m.

I've noticed recently that a lot of upgrades have been making the total installed size go down. Has something changed in the packaging, like compressed binaries or a new version of GCC or something? I'm just curious.

not any more Targets (33): acpid-2.0.16-1 avr-binutils-2.22-3 avr-gcc-4.7.0-1 avr-libc-1.8.0-3 chromium-18.0.1025.162-1 consolekit-0.4.6-2 flashplugin-11.2.202.233-1 iso-codes-3.34-1 libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.2-1 libgphoto2-2.4.14-1 libmysqlclient-5.5.23-1 libthai-0.1.17-1 libvirt-0.9.11-2 linux-3.3.2-1 llvm-3.0-3 mkinitcpio-0.8.7-2 mysql-5.5.23-1 mysql-clients-5.5.23-1 nbd-3.0-2 nginx-1.0.15-1 nss-3.13.4-1 openbsd-netcat-1.105-2 openjpeg-1.5.0-1 qt-4.8.1-2 sbcl-1.0.56-1 vim-nerdtree-4.2.0-3 wine-1.5.2-1 xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.99.903-1 xf86-video-intel-2.18.0-3 xorg-server-1.12.1-1 xorg-server-common-1.12.1-1 xorg-server-xephyr-1.12.1-1 xorg-xinput-1.5.99.901-1 Total Download Size: 164,54 MiB Total Installed Size: 796,28 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 64,02 MiB -- дамјан

Karol Babioch

28 Apr 28 Apr

12:23 a.m.

Hi, Am 17.04.2012 03:23, schrieb Damjan:

not any more

Well, there are quite a few upgrades (meaning a change in the upstream version) within your showed output. The tendency for upstream releases is to get bigger, so when updating a bunch of them (just like you did), there is absolutely no surprise when the resulting installed size will get bigger, too. However I've also noticed the drop in size for some packages. I will have to investigate this deeper, but there seem to be some (huge) improvements coming along with the gcc release. Just another reason to love Arch. I guess we are among the firsts who made the switch ;). Best regards, Karol Babioch

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