2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin :

Hi,

I often have issues with $ makepkg --allsource when I build source package which uses ftp.archlinux.org

Today they are:

qt texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc

Should I create bug or sources are removed from ftp for some reason?

The sources should remain on ftp.archlinux.org as long as the version exists in ABS, though that's not set-in-stone. Are you using an ABS PKGBUILD, or one of your own making?

2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin :

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The sources should remain on ftp.archlinux.org as long as the version exists in ABS, though that's not set-in-stone. Are you using  an ABS PKGBUILD, or one of your own making?

I use 'svnsync'ed repo and do 'makepkg --allsources' for all packages in repos/ subdirs.

So I can say I use ABS.

So... what's the exact error? And how quickly are you doing this? There is a delay between the arch dev machine that the developers use and ftp.archlinux.org (about 5-15 minutes IIRC)

Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed last time: abyssws aqua-data-studio autojump choqok colorgcc cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdb cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdbstub emerald-themes fcpcmcia flashplugin flickrnet foomatic foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-db-nonfree foomatic-filters fop g2sc glob2 gogh gtk-rezlooks-engine icoconvert java-gnome john kazehakase kmess libtango musepack-tools opencv openoffice-base-beta openoffice-base-devel openoffice-i18n pessulus phonon-xine plan9port qt selinux-flex sunbird swftools tango-generator texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc thunderbird-spell-i18n tinyxml vim-colorsamplerpack visualboyadvance xsane youtube-dl

2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin :

Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed last time:

abyssws aqua-data-studio autojump choqok colorgcc cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdb cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdbstub emerald-themes fcpcmcia flashplugin flickrnet foomatic foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-db-nonfree foomatic-filters fop g2sc glob2 gogh gtk-rezlooks-engine icoconvert java-gnome john kazehakase kmess libtango musepack-tools opencv openoffice-base-beta openoffice-base-devel openoffice-i18n pessulus phonon-xine plan9port qt selinux-flex sunbird swftools tango-generator texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc thunderbird-spell-i18n tinyxml vim-colorsamplerpack visualboyadvance xsane youtube-dl

These are PKGBUILD errors. Additionally, it looks like someone has removed old verisons as only the latest seem to exist here: ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/texlive/ Please take this up with the individual maintainers or file a bug report or something

Aaron Griffin a écrit :

2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin :

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Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed last time:

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texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc thunderbird-spell-i18n

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These are PKGBUILD errors. Additionally, it looks like someone has

someone = me :) see further below

removed old verisons as only the latest seem to exist here: ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/texlive/

Please take this up with the individual maintainers or file a bug report or something

I don't know about the texlive-*-doc packages from community, which are maintained by Stefan Hussman. Feel free to ask him directly or to file a bug report. In the case of the texlive packages in extra, I always upload the sources to ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/texlive/ and usually leave the source tarball for at least the last two versions. It does happen that I forget, however, and Eric usually reminds me quickly ;) I think keeping the tarballs for the last two versions is sane, but if someone thinks otherwise, I can leave them available for a longer period. Opinion on this? Now, more spefically: * texlive-core : sources are up-to-date, so probably your ABS tree was not in sync. * texlive-bibtexextra : the latest source tarball was indeed missing, fixed now! Thanks, F

Aaron Griffin schrieb:

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Firmicus wrote:

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Aaron Griffin a écrit :

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2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin :

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Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed last time:

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texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc thunderbird-spell-i18n

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These are PKGBUILD errors. Additionally, it looks like someone has

someone = me :) see further below

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removed old verisons as only the latest seem to exist here: ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/texlive/

Please take this up with the individual maintainers or file a bug report or something

I don't know about the texlive-*-doc packages from community, which are maintained by Stefan Hussman. Feel free to ask him directly or to file a bug report.

In the case of the texlive packages in extra, I always upload the sources to ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/texlive/ and usually leave the source tarball for at least the last two versions. It does happen that I forget, however, and Eric usually reminds me quickly ;)

I think keeping the tarballs for the last two versions is sane, but if someone thinks otherwise, I can leave them available for a longer period. Opinion on this?

Now, more spefically: * texlive-core : sources are up-to-date, so probably your ABS tree was not in sync. * texlive-bibtexextra : the latest source tarball was indeed missing, fixed now!

It's also possible that the -doc packages are farther behind, and sources have been removed for those simply because they're not up to speed with the official texlive packages

Hello, the -doc packages are far behind because I did not manage to build them correctly, i.e to download the doc packages in a similar way Firmicus does for the normal packages. I did not upload the zip-files to ftp.archlinux.org because I do not see a reason for doing so and the packages are quite big. No user probably wants to update a the packages that way or will be able to do so. Regards Stefan Husmann

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Firmicus wrote:

Stefan Husmann a écrit :

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Aaron Griffin schrieb:

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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Firmicus wrote:

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I don't know about the texlive-*-doc packages from community, which are maintained by Stefan Hussman. Feel free to ask him directly or to file a bug report. <snip>

It's also possible that the -doc packages are farther behind, and sources have been removed for those simply because they're not up to speed with the official texlive packages

Hello,

the -doc packages are far behind because I did not manage to build them correctly, i.e to download the doc packages in a similar way Firmicus does for the normal packages. I did not upload the zip-files to ftp.archlinux.org because I do not see a reason for doing so and the packages are quite big. No user probably wants to update a the packages that way or will be able to do so. Regards Stefan Husmann

The reason for doing so is simple: the TeXLive license *requires* us to provide the sources :)

BTW if you have problems with my texlive-scripts, feel free to ask ;)

Aren't the docs in the same source tarballs? Couldn't you just pull the existing texlive tarballs and use those?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 23:57, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Firmicus wrote:

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The reason for doing so is simple: the TeXLive license *requires* us to provide the sources :)

BTW if you have problems with my texlive-scripts, feel free to ask ;)

Aren't the docs in the same source tarballs? Couldn't you just pull the existing texlive tarballs and use those?

Don't we have a special script that downloads sources of packages? Why the sources of texlive are in /other/texlive/ then?

You are confusing sources and sourceballs. ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other is intendend for source tarballs for projects that are no longer hosted upstream, SCM snapshots, homemade projects, etc. ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/sources is intendend for sourceballs of packages where the license forces us to also host the sources (GPL2, GPL, etc.).