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hollunder＠gmx.at

24 Apr 2009 24 Apr '09

4:31 p.m.

Hi there, I just tried the latest version of system-config-printer from [extra] and couldn't find an executable. It installs some stuff here: $ ls /usr/share/system-config-printer/ config.py cupshelpers.py debug.py ppds.py smburi.py Other users report to have a system-config-printer.py there but such a file doesn't exist on my system. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? Regards, Philipp

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Samed Beyribey

24 Apr 24 Apr

4:35 p.m.

Other users report to have a system-config-printer.py there but such a file doesn't exist on my system.

It's in system-config-printer-gnome package. Regards, Samed.

hollunder＠gmx.at

4:48 p.m.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:35:14 +0300 Samed Beyribey wrote:

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Other users report to have a system-config-printer.py there but such a file doesn't exist on my system.

It's in system-config-printer-gnome package.

Regards, Samed.

How do I have to understand that? System-config-printer is useless? Philipp

Jan de Groot

5:11 p.m.

On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:48 +0200, hollunder@gmx.at wrote:

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:35:14 +0300 Samed Beyribey wrote:

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Other users report to have a system-config-printer.py there but such a file doesn't exist on my system.

It's in system-config-printer-gnome package.

Regards, Samed.

How do I have to understand that? System-config-printer is useless?

Philipp

First thing I thought was: WTF is this useless package then? Then I looked up the package and saw that KDE uses the scripts in this package for the printer administration. It's good to split it this way, as gnome-python is not really a dependency you want to drag into kde.

hollunder＠gmx.at

6:17 p.m.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:11:09 +0200 Jan de Groot wrote:

On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:48 +0200, hollunder@gmx.at wrote:

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:35:14 +0300 Samed Beyribey wrote:

...
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Other users report to have a system-config-printer.py there but such a file doesn't exist on my system.

It's in system-config-printer-gnome package.

Regards, Samed.

How do I have to understand that? System-config-printer is useless?

Philipp

First thing I thought was: WTF is this useless package then? Then I looked up the package and saw that KDE uses the scripts in this package for the printer administration. It's good to split it this way, as gnome-python is not really a dependency you want to drag into kde.

Right. So there's no way to use this standalone? "Pygtk CUPS Configuration" led me to believe it was possible and there's no dependency indicating that it's useless without gnome or kde. Regards, Philipp

Andrea Scarpino

6:51 p.m.

2009/4/24 :

Right. So there's no way to use this standalone? "Pygtk CUPS Configuration" led me to believe it was possible and there's no dependency indicating that it's useless without gnome or kde. No. That packages only contains base file needed by kde to work. You must install the -gnome package to use system-config-printer. I'll put a .install and I'll change the description in the next release.

-- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer

Jan de Groot

7:14 p.m.

On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:51 +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote:

2009/4/24 :

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Right. So there's no way to use this standalone? "Pygtk CUPS Configuration" led me to believe it was possible and there's no dependency indicating that it's useless without gnome or kde. No. That packages only contains base file needed by kde to work. You must install the -gnome package to use system-config-printer. I'll put a .install and I'll change the description in the next release.

Why add a .install file if you can use optdepends also to suggest installation of the -gnome frontend? You might also want to move the -gnome frontend to extra then.

Andrea Scarpino

7:24 p.m.

2009/4/24 Jan de Groot :

Why add a .install file if you can use optdepends also to suggest installation of the -gnome frontend? You might also want to move the -gnome frontend to extra then. you are right for optdepends. I will. do you want to maintain -gnome? install gnome packages everytime annoying me.

-- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer

hollunder＠gmx.at

8:43 p.m.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:24:24 +0200 Andrea Scarpino wrote:

2009/4/24 Jan de Groot :

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Why add a .install file if you can use optdepends also to suggest installation of the -gnome frontend? You might also want to move the -gnome frontend to extra then. you are right for optdepends. I will. do you want to maintain -gnome? install gnome packages everytime annoying me.

If it really depends on gnome I won't use it, but thanks for clearing this up. Best regards, Philipp

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