On 08/27/2010 11:27 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

On 08/27/2010 06:23 PM, Jackson Alley wrote:

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The vala package is several versions out of date and some packages now depend on the .9 branch like shotwell. Here's an updated PKGBUILD: http://dpaste.com/234866/ Jackson

for the 999999 time, vala 0.9.x is the devel branch and i'm not going to update it.

shotwell was updated to 0.7 and vala 0.9.5 is a _makedepends_ not a depends for this app

My apologies, my googling didn't turn up this prior discussion and the phrasing on the vala homepage (http://live.gnome.org/Vala/Release) lables the 0.9.x version as "releases" not a development branch. Jackson

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 06:09:27PM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote:

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jackson Alley wrote:

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 On 08/27/2010 11:27 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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On 08/27/2010 06:23 PM, Jackson Alley wrote:

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The vala package is several versions out of date and some packages now depend on the .9 branch like shotwell. Here's an updated PKGBUILD: http://dpaste.com/234866/ Jackson

for the 999999 time, vala 0.9.x is the devel branch and i'm not going to update it.

shotwell was updated to 0.7 and vala 0.9.5 is a _makedepends_ not a depends for this app

My apologies, my googling didn't turn up this prior discussion and the phrasing on the vala homepage (http://live.gnome.org/Vala/Release) lables the 0.9.x version as "releases" not a development branch. Jackson

hehe, i was one of those 999999 too. and there seems to be a "secret" versioning schema that "all" gnome projects follow: odd numbers are unstable and even are stable. but yeah, i never found this definition on the gnome site neither...

Section 3.1 of the link below mentions it. http://developer.gnome.org/gep/gep-4.html Not the most visible location for it, but given that its organization wide, it doesn't make sense to be mentioned for each individual project either. d

On 08/27/2010 08:58 PM, Denis Kobozev wrote:

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for the 999999 time, vala 0.9.x is the devel branch and i'm not going to update it.

shotwell was updated to 0.7 and vala 0.9.5 is a _makedepends_ not a depends for this app

Wouldn't it be easier for you and everybody else if you deleted vala from the repo completely? There are no packages that require it and users who need it have to get the latest version from AUR anyway.

Denis.

there are several packages in repos that require vala at compilation. $ grep -rl vala /var/abs/ community/awn-extras-applets/PKGBUILD community/python-matplotlib/PKGBUILD community/shotwell/PKGBUILD community/avant-window-navigator/PKGBUILD community/libdesktop-agnostic/PKGBUILD community/libdesktop-agnostic/various-fixes.patch extra/vala/PKGBUILD extra/midori/PKGBUILD extra/gmpc/PKGBUILD -- Ionuț

On 08/27/2010 09:33 PM, Denis Kobozev wrote:

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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On 08/27/2010 08:58 PM, Denis Kobozev wrote:

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Wouldn't it be easier for you and everybody else if you deleted vala from the repo completely? There are no packages that require it and users who need it have to get the latest version from AUR anyway.

there are several packages in repos that require vala at compilation.

$ grep -rl vala /var/abs/ ...

5, to be precise:

community/awn-extras-applets/PKGBUILD community/avant-window-navigator/PKGBUILD community/libdesktop-agnostic/PKGBUILD extra/midori/PKGBUILD extra/gmpc/PKGBUILD

I don't know what's worse - installing Vala to build these from AUR or read the 1 millionth request to update Vala :)

Denis.

i could just ignore them but i'm a good guy and reply with a motive and redirect them to aur-> vala-devel -- Ionuț

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:

As a distro, we only update packages to "latest stable". There are a few exceptions, especially those that are slow in releasing stable versions of their software or are generally high-level tools that rarely break. So if the maintainer of vala does not want to update to the devel version, it is perfectly reasonable, and correct.

It is reasonable. As a user, I already got my information about Vala. I just wish I could get it without contributing to maintainer's aggravation though. Denis.