[arch-general] Gnome Shell freezes
Dear arch users and developers, I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem. Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily). Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop. What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images. Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400 I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages. Looking forward to your suggestions, Max [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129481
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Max
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages. Since you guess ati driver would be the reason, why try it with vesa or binary driver, then see the result.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
On 03/11/11, Max wrote:
| Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:08:31 +0200
| From: Max
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
Hi Max. Try to use system diagnostics tools like `vmstat 2`(2 is a timeout) for example, probably you will find the key to resolve you problem. By the way did you fill /etc/hosts with your PC's hostname ? -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
Hey, thanks for your responses. @Gan Lu: ATI canceled support for the proprietary driver for X1400. Using the vesa driver won't work because gnome shell requires hardware acceleration. @Simon: Actually I will try killing gnome-shell next time. I always killed gnome-session or the xserver. or simply stopped gdm. We seem to have different problem though. I use CTRL+ALT+{UP,DOWN} quite a lot and it never hung up when switching between workspaces. @Roman: Doing vmstat 2 > vmstat.log & now. Actually I don't know what to do with the information after a crash but it will provide more insight. If anybody else experiences similar problems, please comment. On 03.11.2011 12:38, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
Hi Max. Try to use system diagnostics tools like `vmstat 2`(2 is a timeout) for example, probably you will find the key to resolve you problem. By the way did you fill /etc/hosts with your PC's hostname ?
@Roman: forgot to mention: yes, i filled in my hostname in /etc/rc.conf and /etc/hosts On Do 03 Nov 2011 12:58:29 EET, Max wrote:
Hey, thanks for your responses.
@Gan Lu: ATI canceled support for the proprietary driver for X1400. Using the vesa driver won't work because gnome shell requires hardware acceleration.
@Simon: Actually I will try killing gnome-shell next time. I always killed gnome-session or the xserver. or simply stopped gdm. We seem to have different problem though. I use CTRL+ALT+{UP,DOWN} quite a lot and it never hung up when switching between workspaces.
@Roman: Doing vmstat 2 > vmstat.log & now. Actually I don't know what to do with the information after a crash but it will provide more insight.
If anybody else experiences similar problems, please comment.
On 03.11.2011 12:38, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
Hi Max. Try to use system diagnostics tools like `vmstat 2`(2 is a timeout) for example, probably you will find the key to resolve you problem. By the way did you fill /etc/hosts with your PC's hostname ?
Hey, thanks for your responses.
@Gan Lu: ATI canceled support for the proprietary driver for X1400. Using the vesa driver won't work because gnome shell requires hardware acceleration.
@Simon: Actually I will try killing gnome-shell next time. I always killed gnome-session or the xserver. or simply stopped gdm. We seem to have different problem though. I use CTRL+ALT+{UP,DOWN} quite a lot and it never hung up when switching between workspaces.
@Roman: Doing vmstat 2 > vmstat.log & now. Actually I don't know what to do with the information after a crash but it will provide more insight.
If anybody else experiences similar problems, please comment.
On 03.11.2011 12:38, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
Hi Max. Try to use system diagnostics tools like `vmstat 2`(2 is a timeout) for example, probably you will find the key to resolve you problem. By the way did you fill /etc/hosts with your PC's hostname ?
Max, i have ASUS F3Ke laptop with ATI X2300 and i do not have such problems with xf86-video-ati driver, but if be honest i'm a kde user. Try to compare vmstat output when system behavior is normal and when it's freezes and post it here if there will be any difference. -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
-----Mensaje original----- De: arch-general-bounces@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general- bounces@archlinux.org] En nombre de Max Enviado el: jueves, 03 de noviembre de 2011 11:09 Para: arch-general@archlinux.org Asunto: [arch-general] Gnome Shell freezes
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
Looking forward to your suggestions, Max
It happens to me now and then, and I'm using intel drivers. I have noticed that most of the times it is when I switch from a full screen vmware workstation VM to another task. The symptoms are the same. Usually I can connect from other machine to the VM and shut it down, and then reboot the computer. Sometimes it happens once or twice a day, and then comes a new driver and the problem vanishes for a month. Then another upgrade brings it back. Actually, I haven't suffered it for at least two weeks... No suggestions, only that I think that it is not related to the radeon drivers. Guillermo Leira
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Max wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
This happens to me fairly rarely, but still often enough to be irritating. For me it has only ever happened when I use the logo key to jump into the Activities Overview and start typing to search for an application. The only way out of it seems to be to jump out to a console and kill gnome-session or restart gdm. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay
Le 4 nov. 2011 à 20:51, Magnus Therning a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Max wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
This happens to me fairly rarely, but still often enough to be irritating.
For me it has only ever happened when I use the logo key to jump into the Activities Overview and start typing to search for an application. The only way out of it seems to be to jump out to a console and kill gnome-session or restart gdm.
Send SIGHUP to gnome-shell will save you from losing your session. pkill -HUP gnome-shell
/M
-- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus
Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay
05.11.2011 00:10, Tuxce пишет:
Le 4 nov. 2011 à 20:51, Magnus Therning a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Max wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
This happens to me fairly rarely, but still often enough to be irritating.
For me it has only ever happened when I use the logo key to jump into the Activities Overview and start typing to search for an application. The only way out of it seems to be to jump out to a console and kill gnome-session or restart gdm.
Send SIGHUP to gnome-shell will save you from losing your session. pkill -HUP gnome-shell
/M
-- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus
Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay
FYI: They said, fedora project preparing new patches for gnome-shell which will allow to work gnome-shell without opengl support: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-November/158976.html -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I logged vmstat 2 output [1]. Here are the last 300 lines that show the situation before and after the crash till I rebooted. I can't really read much out of it, but maybe someone else? For some reason this time it took a while for the problem to show up again (several days). I wonder if that has anything to do with me setting up a swap that I didn't use before. My main memory is more than sufficient though. @Tuxce: Killing the gnome-shell process restarts the gnome shell but will result in an immediate freeze again. The only solution is restarting the system. Thanks, Max [1] http://pastebin.com/CZiMj347 On 04.11.2011 22:10, Tuxce wrote:
Le 4 nov. 2011 à 20:51, Magnus Therning a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Max wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
This happens to me fairly rarely, but still often enough to be irritating.
For me it has only ever happened when I use the logo key to jump into the Activities Overview and start typing to search for an application. The only way out of it seems to be to jump out to a console and kill gnome-session or restart gdm.
Send SIGHUP to gnome-shell will save you from losing your session. pkill -HUP gnome-shell
/M
-- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus
Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay
Le 07.11.2011 12:39, Max a écrit :
I logged vmstat 2 output [1]. Here are the last 300 lines that show the situation before and after the crash till I rebooted. I can't really read much out of it, but maybe someone else?
For some reason this time it took a while for the problem to show up again (several days). I wonder if that has anything to do with me setting up a swap that I didn't use before. My main memory is more than sufficient though.
@Tuxce: Killing the gnome-shell process restarts the gnome shell but will result in an immediate freeze again. The only solution is restarting the system.
Thanks, Max
Maybe you have some error log in dmesg output ? Paul
Here's the dmesg output [1]. Can't find any error messages related to my problem. What do you recommend as a next step? -Max [1] http://pastebin.com/vbtqB1Yp On 07.11.2011 17:03, Paul Ezvan wrote:
Le 07.11.2011 12:39, Max a écrit :
I logged vmstat 2 output [1]. Here are the last 300 lines that show the situation before and after the crash till I rebooted. I can't really read much out of it, but maybe someone else?
For some reason this time it took a while for the problem to show up again (several days). I wonder if that has anything to do with me setting up a swap that I didn't use before. My main memory is more than sufficient though.
@Tuxce: Killing the gnome-shell process restarts the gnome shell but will result in an immediate freeze again. The only solution is restarting the system.
Thanks, Max
Maybe you have some error log in dmesg output ?
Paul
09.11.2011 22:56, Max пишет:
Here's the dmesg output [1]. Can't find any error messages related to my problem.
What do you recommend as a next step?
-Max
[1] http://pastebin.com/vbtqB1Yp
On 07.11.2011 17:03, Paul Ezvan wrote:
Le 07.11.2011 12:39, Max a écrit :
I logged vmstat 2 output [1]. Here are the last 300 lines that show the situation before and after the crash till I rebooted. I can't really read much out of it, but maybe someone else?
For some reason this time it took a while for the problem to show up again (several days). I wonder if that has anything to do with me setting up a swap that I didn't use before. My main memory is more than sufficient though.
@Tuxce: Killing the gnome-shell process restarts the gnome shell but will result in an immediate freeze again. The only solution is restarting the system.
Thanks, Max
Maybe you have some error log in dmesg output ?
Paul
Hello Max, i don't see anything strange in your vmstat output, such as your dmesg. Could you please check .xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, maybe there we'll see something. -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
Thanks Roman. Here's more output from Xorg.0.log [1] and .xsession-errors [2]: For the xorg.log I included only the strange messages occurring very often. For the xsession errors I pasted the last 300 lines. Strange seems to be in xorg.log: [ 55102.137] (II) RADEON(0): radeon_dri2_schedule_flip:670 fevent[0x94aec70] [ 55102.147] (II) RADEON(0): radeon_dri2_flip_event_handler:1067 fevent[0x94aec70] width 1400 pitch 5632 (/4 1408) ..and in .xsession-errors: (gnome-shell:1182): St-CRITICAL **: _st_paint_shadow_with_opacity: assertion `shadow_spec != NULL' failed Maybe you can read out more... [1] http://pastebin.com/FCbbLicA [2] http://pastebin.com/2Q9yNsUD On 11.11.2011 21:30, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
09.11.2011 22:56, Max пишет:
Here's the dmesg output [1]. Can't find any error messages related to my problem.
What do you recommend as a next step?
-Max
[1] http://pastebin.com/vbtqB1Yp
On 07.11.2011 17:03, Paul Ezvan wrote:
Le 07.11.2011 12:39, Max a écrit :
I logged vmstat 2 output [1]. Here are the last 300 lines that show the situation before and after the crash till I rebooted. I can't really read much out of it, but maybe someone else?
For some reason this time it took a while for the problem to show up again (several days). I wonder if that has anything to do with me setting up a swap that I didn't use before. My main memory is more than sufficient though.
@Tuxce: Killing the gnome-shell process restarts the gnome shell but will result in an immediate freeze again. The only solution is restarting the system.
Thanks, Max
Maybe you have some error log in dmesg output ?
Paul
Hello Max, i don't see anything strange in your vmstat output, such as your dmesg. Could you please check .xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, maybe there we'll see something.
The 12/11/11, Max wrote:
..and in .xsession-errors:
(gnome-shell:1182): St-CRITICAL **: _st_paint_shadow_with_opacity: assertion `shadow_spec != NULL' failed
Looks like a bug in gnome-shell. I think it should be reported upstream. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Magnus Therning
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Max wrote:
Dear arch users and developers,
I have posted this issue also in the archlinux forum [1]. I didn't get much feedback there. So I'm hoping some people here might have an idea of how to resolve the problem.
Problem: gnome shell freezes from time to time (actually daily).
Freezing: "Freezing" means, the screen becomes unresponsive but everything seems to continue working (sound and videos continue playing; even the mouse pointer can still be moved). Most of the time I'm able to switch to a virtual console although sometimes it takes 10-20 seconds after CTRL+ALT+F1 to show up. Then, however, everything is running smoothly. It's not possible to restart X since it will freeze again at the gdm login screen, or even without using gdm when loading the desktop.
What triggers the problem: Usually it happens while scrolling on websites or pdfs. I feel like it happens more often if there are large images.
Hardware: IBM T60 ATI X1400
I think it's an issue with the open source radeon drivers. However, this problem doesn't occur using other desktop environments. I tried to look into some log files but I couldn't find noticeable error messages.
This happens to me fairly rarely, but still often enough to be irritating.
For me it has only ever happened when I use the logo key to jump into the Activities Overview and start typing to search for an application. The only way out of it seems to be to jump out to a console and kill gnome-session or restart gdm.
/M
I'll add a "ditto" to the logo key type to search apps freeze.
participants (10)
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Casey Peter
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Guillermo Leira
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Magnus Therning
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Max
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Nicolas Sebrecht
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Paul Ezvan
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Roman V.Leon.
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Simon Perry
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Tuxce
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甘露(Gan Lu)