[arch-general] Audio quirks
Hi and morning Right then with a bit of help most things so far have been solved heres another one , Audio for the mst works well using PA apart from 2 glitches 1 : no audio from firefox on most sites or absolute full volume with no control over it at all ie no sound from youtube but if i download the video it is ok or go to another site try "quinton-mc.org.uk/vindex.html" just a few car club bits on a test / Play ground HTML5 page tey are all full volume and that is a lot when it comes on 4x140 watt . 2: I have an Nvidia graphics card GT220 that has HDMI output on it (i dont use it dont have anything to take HDMI in) but it keeps getting setup as the primary audio system there is an on board sound card as well that is disabled (really bad quality) i use an external USB sound card works well for the GBP 19.00 that it cost Certain games refuse point blank to use the external sound and insist on the HDMI job how can i stop this the HDMI is turned off every where i can find it what else do i need to do to remove it from being detected Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-2-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 08:41:53 up 10:49, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.05
For #2, try blacklisting the snd-hda-codec-nvidia module.
Alternative use pavucontrol or KDE sound setup windows HW tab to set the internal and HDMI cards mode into 'disabled' from '2.0 Stereo output, Stereo Input.' or what ever it is set for. This makes sure only the usb card is used, as its the only one PA apps see as usable then. No real idea about the 1st one... have you installed pulseadio-alsa and alsa-plugins ?. I don't know what is the state of flashplugin our repos, but it might need lib32-{libpulse,alsa-libs} pkgs to function propelly whith PA.... -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)
No real idea about the 1st one... have you installed pulseadio-alsa and alsa-plugins ?. I don't know what is the state of flashplugin our repos, but it might need lib32-{libpulse,alsa-libs} pkgs to function propelly whith PA.... AFAIK flash is native on x86-64, at least on my system. Most likely, PA's ALSA compatibility later is selecting the first PA device, which is HDMI in
On 16 Jan 2012 09:19, "Jesse Jaara" <jesse.jaara@gmail.com> wrote: this case.
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 09:25 +0000, Michael Holmes wrote:
On 16 Jan 2012 09:19, "Jesse Jaara" <jesse.jaara@gmail.com> wrote:
No real idea about the 1st one... have you installed pulseadio-alsa and alsa-plugins ?. I don't know what is the state of flashplugin our repos, but it might need lib32-{libpulse,alsa-libs} pkgs to function propelly whith PA.... AFAIK flash is native on x86-64, at least on my system. Most likely, PA's ALSA compatibility later is selecting the first PA device, which is HDMI in this case.
I had to get rid of pulseaudio. [spinymouse@archlinux pulseaudio-dummy]$ cat PKGBUILD pkgname=pulseaudio-dummy pkgver=1.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A dummy package that pretends to provide pulseaudio." arch=('any') url="" license=('BSD') provides=('pulseaudio') conflicts=('pulseaudio') [spinymouse@archlinux pulseaudio-dummy]$ pacman -Qs alsa local/alsa-firmware 1.0.24.1-1 ALSA firmware package local/alsa-lib 1.0.24.1-1 An alternative implementation of Linux sound support local/alsa-oss 1.0.17-2 OSS compatibility library local/alsa-plugins 1.0.24-3 Extra alsa plugins local/alsa-tools 1.0.24.1-1 ALSA tools package local/alsa-utils 1.0.24.2-3 An alternative implementation of Linux sound support local/pulseaudio-alsa 1-2 (pulseaudio-gnome) ALSA Configuration for PulseAudio
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 10:32 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 09:25 +0000, Michael Holmes wrote:
On 16 Jan 2012 09:19, "Jesse Jaara" <jesse.jaara@gmail.com> wrote:
No real idea about the 1st one... have you installed pulseadio-alsa and alsa-plugins ?. I don't know what is the state of flashplugin our repos, but it might need lib32-{libpulse,alsa-libs} pkgs to function propelly whith PA.... AFAIK flash is native on x86-64, at least on my system. Most likely, PA's ALSA compatibility later is selecting the first PA device, which is HDMI in this case.
I had to get rid of pulseaudio.
[spinymouse@archlinux pulseaudio-dummy]$ cat PKGBUILD pkgname=pulseaudio-dummy pkgver=1.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A dummy package that pretends to provide pulseaudio." arch=('any') url="" license=('BSD') provides=('pulseaudio') conflicts=('pulseaudio')
Pardon: [spinymouse@archlinux pulseaudio-dummy]$ cat PKGBUILD pkgname=pulseaudio-dummy pkgver=1.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A dummy package that pretends to provide pulseaudio." arch=('any') url="" license=('BSD') provides=('pulseaudio') conflicts=('pulseaudio') source=()
Yous hould no't have n eeded to do that. Pulseaudio should only be needed by application whick don't do anything without pulseadio. We have libpulse package that provides pulseaudio lib for applications linked with PA support like mplayer.... -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 11:36 +0200, Jesse Jaara wrote:
Yous hould no't have n eeded to do that. Pulseaudio should only be needed by application whick don't do anything without pulseadio. We have libpulse package that provides pulseaudio lib for applications linked with PA support like mplayer....
Perhaps some KDE app forced Pete to install PA? I was forced to install it. GNOME3 force you to install pulseaudio, but at least for my usage it's not needed, it only cause trouble. I'm not sure if I'll install GNOME3 on my Arch, perhaps I'll test Mate. I used GNOME2 (it was upgraded to 3) and XFCE with Debian. Currently for my Arch I'm using XFCE only. For Arch GDM forced me to install PA. I know that there are other login managers available, but since I guess that I'll install some GNOME apps, PA might become an issue in the future, so I kept GDM and already replaced PA by a dummy package.
On Monday 16 Jan 2012 12:10:03 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 11:36 +0200, Jesse Jaara wrote:
Yous hould no't have n eeded to do that. Pulseaudio should only be needed by application whick don't do anything without pulseadio. We have libpulse package that provides pulseaudio lib for applications linked with PA support like mplayer....
Perhaps some KDE app forced Pete to install PA?
I was forced to install it.
GNOME3 force you to install pulseaudio, but at least for my usage it's not needed, it only cause trouble. I'm not sure if I'll install GNOME3 on my Arch, perhaps I'll test Mate. I used GNOME2 (it was upgraded to 3) and XFCE with Debian. Currently for my Arch I'm using XFCE only.
For Arch GDM forced me to install PA. I know that there are other login managers available, but since I guess that I'll install some GNOME apps, PA might become an issue in the future, so I kept GDM and already replaced PA by a dummy package.
I installed PA because i could not get sound to work with alsa with this darn thing on the Nvidia card the onboard was easy just disable it in the bios but the Nvidia HDMI thing is a real invasive pain Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-2-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 15:12:22 up 17:19, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.05
On Monday 16 Jan 2012 09:07:16 Michael Holmes wrote:
For #2, try blacklisting the snd-hda-codec-nvidia module.
Hi I will try that out a bit later see what happens Cheers Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-2-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 10:02:37 up 12:09, 6 users, load average: 0.41, 0.21, 0.20
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 08:52 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
[snip] 2: I have an Nvidia graphics card GT220 that has HDMI output on it (i dont use it dont have anything to take HDMI in) but it keeps getting setup as the primary audio system there is an on board sound card as well that is disabled (really bad quality) i use an external USB sound card works well for the GBP 19.00 that it cost
Certain games refuse point blank to use the external sound and insist on the HDMI job how can i stop this the HDMI is turned off every where i can find it what else do i need to do to remove it from being detected
Hi Pete, if you want multiple audio interfaces given consistent device numbers by ALSA you might need to do this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Rando... In the past I did it that way for the Debian based 64Studio: http://www.64studio.com/faq_user Take a look at 13., there might be no dmixer being involved. I had to edit nothing for Arch, the order always is the same: $ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Default [RME AIO_579bcc], device 0: RME AIO [RME AIO] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: EWX2496 [TerraTec EWX24/96], device 0: ICE1712 multi [ICE1712 multi] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: EWX2496_1 [TerraTec EWX24/96], device 0: ICE1712 multi [ICE1712 multi] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Perhaps they are sorted by IRQs, dunno. OT but you might get a similar issue, if two devices should use the same driver: I use the TerraTecs for MIDI only. I didn't make music with Arch until now, but with Ubuntu I always needed to connect the TerraTecs ALSA MIDI ports manually, since both have the same name. IIRC for JACK clients there are alias names, IIRC for ALSA there's a way too. Hth, Ralf
On 16-01-2012 08:52, Peter Nikolic wrote:
1 : no audio from firefox on most sites or absolute full volume with no control over it at all ie no sound from youtube but if i download the video it is ok or go to another site try "quinton-mc.org.uk/vindex.html" just a few car club bits on a test / Play ground HTML5 page tey are all full volume and that is a lot when it comes on 4x140 watt .
Do you have alsa-plugins installed? Firefox seems to work fine here on the page you mention. Mind you that firefox does use an alsa plugin to output to pulse. My /etc/asound.conf pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse } -- Mauro Santos
On Monday 16 Jan 2012 11:02:00 Mauro Santos wrote:
On 16-01-2012 08:52, Peter Nikolic wrote:
1 : no audio from firefox on most sites or absolute full volume with no control over it at all ie no sound from youtube but if i download the video it is ok or go to another site try "quinton-mc.org.uk/vindex.html" just a few car club bits on a test / Play ground HTML5 page tey are all full volume and that is a lot when it comes on 4x140 watt .
Do you have alsa-plugins installed? Firefox seems to work fine here on the page you mention. Mind you that firefox does use an alsa plugin to output to pulse.
My /etc/asound.conf pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse }
Hi Mauro My etc/asound.conf conatins the following # Use PulseAudio by default pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse } # Explicit PulseAudio device pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } # vim:set ft=alsaconf: If this throws any light Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-2-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 15:07:57 up 17:15, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.05
Only thing you need to do is to set the HDMI and internal cards profiles to disabled. On KDE: 1 KDE system setting app 2. Multimedia configuration panel 3. Phonen sub menu 4. 2nd tab (Sound HW) in the phonon settings screen 5. (Sound) card: [for both internal and NVIDIA HDMI] 6. Profile: Disabled/off or what ever it is in your locale or in english... on other DE/WMs 1. install pavucontrol 2. open pavucontrol 3. follow the KDE stuff from step 4
On Monday 16 Jan 2012 17:14:30 Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
Only thing you need to do is to set the HDMI and internal cards profiles to disabled.
On KDE: 1 KDE system setting app 2. Multimedia configuration panel 3. Phonen sub menu 4. 2nd tab (Sound HW) in the phonon settings screen 5. (Sound) card: [for both internal and NVIDIA HDMI] 6. Profile: Disabled/off or what ever it is in your locale or in english...
on other DE/WMs 1. install pavucontrol 2. open pavucontrol 3. follow the KDE stuff from step 4
well i have that set but i still get the audio device USB does n ot work falling back to falling back to Nvidia HDMI . Which is supposed to be disabled that is when trying to play any of the KDE card / tile type games Mahjongg , shieen Sho and the likes Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-2-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 16:32:34 up 18:39, 5 users, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.05
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 16:36 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
Which is supposed to be disabled
Did you reboot after blacklisting nvidia sound? Perhaps just unloading the module won't make hw:1 become hw:0.
On 16-01-2012 15:10, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 16 Jan 2012 11:02:00 Mauro Santos wrote:
On 16-01-2012 08:52, Peter Nikolic wrote:
1 : no audio from firefox on most sites or absolute full volume with no control over it at all ie no sound from youtube but if i download the video it is ok or go to another site try "quinton-mc.org.uk/vindex.html" just a few car club bits on a test / Play ground HTML5 page tey are all full volume and that is a lot when it comes on 4x140 watt .
Do you have alsa-plugins installed? Firefox seems to work fine here on the page you mention. Mind you that firefox does use an alsa plugin to output to pulse.
My /etc/asound.conf pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse }
Hi Mauro
My etc/asound.conf conatins the following
# Use PulseAudio by default pcm.!default { type pulse }
ctl.!default { type pulse }
# Explicit PulseAudio device pcm.pulse { type pulse }
ctl.pulse { type pulse }
# vim:set ft=alsaconf:
If this throws any light
Pete .
Not many ideas here, have you tried with a clean profile (try with a new user). I'm using xfce here and it works fine. You should be able to see on pavucontrol how firefox is producing sound and you should be able to adjust it. Don't forget to check on your home if you have any asound.conf too (long shot but worth checking). -- Mauro Santos
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Jesse Jaara
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Michael Holmes
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Peter Nikolic
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Ralf Madorf