[arch-general] Firefox display problem
Using Firefox to access http://cnn.com, photos show up, but often have a superimposed small, hollow rectangle in the center of each. The rectangles contain the characters "FI" above the characters "33".
Is this a sign of some missing component from Firefox, or just an error at the cnn.com website? Or something else?
Using Firefox to access http://cnn.com, photos show up, but often have a superimposed small, hollow rectangle in the center of each. The rectangles contain the characters "FI" above the characters "33".
These rectangles usually indicate characters that can't be displayed by whatever font you are using. I got rid of them by enabling cnn.com in NoScript.
On June 7, 2015 3:31:26 PM EDT, Francis Gerund ranrund@gmail.com wrote:
Using Firefox to access http://cnn.com, photos show up, but often have a superimposed small, hollow rectangle in the center of each. The rectangles contain the characters "FI" above the characters "33".
Is this a sign of some missing component from Firefox, or just an error at the cnn.com website? Or something else?
Are you blocking javascript? When I allow CNN in noscript, those characters are replaced (by a search icon, or the weather, for instance).
Thank you.
Yes, temporarily allowing cnn.com in NoScript did get rid of the rectangles.
But try it youself, and then click the NoScript icon in the Firefox menu bar to count the still-blocked third-party revenue leeches cnn lets tag along on it's website. 11 by my count.
So much for privacy.
Remeber when the websites said to visitors, "what can we do for you?", not "what can we do you for?" . . .
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Christian Demsar vixsomnis@fastmail.com wrote:
On June 7, 2015 3:31:26 PM EDT, Francis Gerund ranrund@gmail.com wrote:
Using Firefox to access http://cnn.com, photos show up, but often have a superimposed small, hollow rectangle in the center of each. The rectangles contain the characters "FI" above the characters "33".
Is this a sign of some missing component from Firefox, or just an error at the cnn.com website? Or something else?
Are you blocking javascript? When I allow CNN in noscript, those characters are replaced (by a search icon, or the weather, for instance). -- vixsomnis
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015, at 04:27 PM, Francis Gerund wrote:
Thank you.
Yes, temporarily allowing cnn.com in NoScript did get rid of the rectangles.
But try it youself, and then click the NoScript icon in the Firefox menu bar to count the still-blocked third-party revenue leeches cnn lets tag along on it's website. 11 by my count.
So much for privacy.
Remeber when the websites said to visitors, "what can we do for you?", not "what can we do you for?" . . .
Privacy issues aside, javascript on certain websites tends to slow my browser down to a crawl. Amazon.com, for instance, is impossibly sluggish when I whitelist it. It's crashed my DE before when I had more than a few tabs open.
In terms of both privacy and performance, the third-party scripts and trackers really do slow down browsing.
(The Amazon scripts aren't third party, they're just surprisingly slow...)
As an aside, if anyone knows a fix for Amazon on Firefox, I'd appreciate a tip. I'm not sure if it's just my local setup.
-- vixsomnis
What version of Firefox are you using? What happens if you're using another Web Browser or at least a virgin Firefox profile [1]? What did you "google" on your own, tested and failed from e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load ? How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
JFTR Firefox 38.0.5-1 on my machine seems to load all pics from the CNN website.
[1] $ firefox --help | grep profile -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>.
Hi.
I am running Firefox 38.0.5-1 from the arch "Extra" repository. As up to date as I can get - I am obsessive about updating.
This display problem started as soon as I installed the system. Of course, I almost immediately installed firefox-noscript upon install also.
I have not used any other browser with Arch, I am really trying to keep a relatively lean setup.
About http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - I believe I have see and read this before - various incarnations of this have been around for years. Interesting, and good to keep in mind.
Regarding http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load I did do some searching using an internet search engine. I did not come across this link, but that's because the problem was not that the images weren't loading. It was the superimposed rectangles.
I didn't think of javascript blocking being the problem, as it would not occur to me to let javascript run free on my system unsupervised.
I thought initially that it might be a case of some character set not being installed. So it might be a good thing that I asked early on. I hate to think how much time and effort I might have wasted on that sort of "snipe hunt"!
May I suggest that technical research requires a certain kind of brain wiring, and above all, considerable patience. If you have that, be thankful - and please try to be understanding of those who are no so blessed.
Finally, when I did: firefox --help | grep profile
I was treated to this sweet little error message:
GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>.
(with a different PID referenced each time).
Now let me do some research on that for a while. If I figure it out, I'll let you know . . .
Cheers! (Seinfeld?)
: )
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com wrote:
What version of Firefox are you using? What happens if you're using another Web Browser or at least a virgin Firefox profile [1]? What did you "google" on your own, tested and failed from e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load ? How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
JFTR Firefox 38.0.5-1 on my machine seems to load all pics from the CNN website.
[1] $ firefox --help | grep profile -P <profile> Start with <profile>. --profile <path> Start with profile at <path>.
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 02:08:17PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
This display problem started as soon as I installed the system. Of course, I almost immediately installed firefox-noscript upon install also.
I didn't think of javascript blocking being the problem, as it would not occur to me to let javascript run free on my system unsupervised.
Welcome to the modern internet, where terrible web designers use javascript willy-nilly for even the most basic of web page rendering. It sucks, I know. I'm right there with you.
That said, if you encounter an issue with firefox, the first thing to do is to disable plugins and try it again. I keep a separate profile handy for this. If it works in the pluginless profile, then the issue is being caused by a plugin and any requests for help / fixes should probably be directed to the forums for that plugin.
In the case of Noscript, broken websites are just a sad fact of life. Graceful downgrading is a thing of the past, it seems...
--Sean
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:08:17 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
Don't worry about that, I get it too.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ firefox --help
(process:14001): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed [snip]
Yes, I guess I may have to start maintaining multiple profiles just to do normal browsing. Grrr . . .
BTW, this error was very easy to find online - but hard to understand. As near as I can figure, it has to do with memory allocation in Firefox (maybe in the Gecko component?), has been around (and reported)for years, and has been reported in Arch as late as 2015-06-02. The rest is over my head.
(See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672671, etc.)
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:08:17 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
Don't worry about that, I get it too.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ firefox --help
(process:14001): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed [snip]
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Francis Gerund ranrund@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I guess I may have to start maintaining multiple profiles just to do normal browsing. Grrr . . .
BTW, this error was very easy to find online - but hard to understand. As near as I can figure, it has to do with memory allocation in Firefox (maybe in the Gecko component?), has been around (and reported)for years, and has been reported in Arch as late as 2015-06-02. The rest is over my head.
(See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672671, etc.)
They're working on that at Mozilla. See http://identity.mozilla.com/
cheers! mar77i
Amazon's website has always been a bit of a drag. I haven't noticed any difference on Windows or Arch, new profile or my usual profile. And it isn't just Amazon.
As Sean said, that is just the way the Internet works these days. It isn't cool enough to just have a working website.
-- Eli Schwartz
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Francis Gerund writes:
Using Firefox to access http://cnn.com, photos show up, but often have a superimposed small, hollow rectangle in the center of each. The rectangles contain the characters "FI" above the characters "33".
Is this a sign of some missing component from Firefox, or just an error at the cnn.com website? Or something else?
Do you happen to have no-script enabled? Some pages rely too much in js and break in various ways without even a tiny bit of it.
I suggest creating a new temporary profile (firefox -P, create it under /tmp), and test the site there, if it works, then the problem is in your profile (most likely in your extensions, but possibly on cache), else its a bug between the site and firefox.
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Christian Demsar
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Eli Schwartz
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Francis Gerund
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Gabriel Hidasy Rezende
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Martti Kühne
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pukayaku
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Ralf Mardorf
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Sean Greenslade