Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5 -- 2b || !2b
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:07 +0600, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
Gnome is what is taking ages to load, there's not much you can do about it. Hal dependencies will be removed eventually (I don't use it on Gnome myself) but the problem isn't Hal.
On 09/10/2010 08:07 AM, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
something is screwed in your system. it should be that slow. Like i starting point, check to see if the hostname is the same after booting into gnome and check /etc/hosts -- Ionuț
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:07 +0600, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
You can remove HAL from DAEMONS, as GNOME doesn't use it. Only gnome-vfs enabled applications can still use it, but GNOME itself doesn't contain such applications anymore.
Thanks for the replies. I added hal daemon to the DAEMONS list according to this wiki page: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Daemons_and_modules_needed_by_GNOM... How does GNOME deal with USB flashdrive detection, etc without HAL ? 2010/9/10 Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net>
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:07 +0600, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
You can remove HAL from DAEMONS, as GNOME doesn't use it. Only gnome-vfs enabled applications can still use it, but GNOME itself doesn't contain such applications anymore.
-- 2b || !2b
2010/9/10 Галымжан Кожаев <kozhayev@gmail.com>:
Thanks for the replies. I added hal daemon to the DAEMONS list according to this wiki page: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Daemons_and_modules_needed_by_GNOM... How does GNOME deal with USB flashdrive detection, etc without HAL ?
udev should take care of it. But, IMHO, it's not hal that is slowing your boot, unless you use a very old computer.
2010/9/10 Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net>
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:07 +0600, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
You can remove HAL from DAEMONS, as GNOME doesn't use it. Only gnome-vfs enabled applications can still use it, but GNOME itself doesn't contain such applications anymore.
-- 2b || !2b
-- ============================================== Ivan Sichmann Freitas Engenharia de Computação 2009 UNICAMP http://identi.ca/ivansichmann Grupo Pró Software Livre UNICAMP - GPSL ==============================================
I disabled hal, seems everything works fine. This reduced loading time for 4-5 seconds. gnome-vfs depends on hal package, does it mean that I can't totally remove hal from my system? 2010/9/10, Ivan S. Freitas <ivansichfreitas@gmail.com>:
2010/9/10 Галымжан Кожаев <kozhayev@gmail.com>:
Thanks for the replies. I added hal daemon to the DAEMONS list according to this wiki page: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Daemons_and_modules_needed_by_GNOM... How does GNOME deal with USB flashdrive detection, etc without HAL ?
udev should take care of it. But, IMHO, it's not hal that is slowing your boot, unless you use a very old computer.
2010/9/10 Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net>
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:07 +0600, Галымжан Кожаев wrote:
Hi list. Few days ago I've succesfully installed arch. It was booting really fast first time (i.e. without gnome, networkmanager, etc). After installing GNOME and some daemons, adding them to the rc.conf, the system now takes 30-40 seconds to load. I heard that HAL daemon takes a lot of time during boot and it's functionality can be replaced by udev. How could I completely remove HAL and still use GNOME without troubles? Is it possible? I have: - GNOME 2.30 - xorg 1.8 - hal 0.5
You can remove HAL from DAEMONS, as GNOME doesn't use it. Only gnome-vfs enabled applications can still use it, but GNOME itself doesn't contain such applications anymore.
-- 2b || !2b
-- ============================================== Ivan Sichmann Freitas Engenharia de Computação 2009 UNICAMP http://identi.ca/ivansichmann Grupo Pró Software Livre UNICAMP - GPSL ==============================================
-- 2b || !2b
participants (5)
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Ionuț Bîru
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Ivan S. Freitas
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Jan de Groot
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Ng Oon-Ee
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Галымжан Кожаев