Re: [arch-general] KDE plasma, baloo and UI/video playback freezes
You mailed me privately. Better replying to mailing list since this could be useful to others && please do not top quote. In data domenica 27 maggio 2018 15:27:13 CEST, hai scritto:
Please try different i/o schedulers and maybe ck or zen kernel for extra BFQ. But first try deadline scheduler. And, like I suggested, check if there's a difference in process and i/o priority between Ubuntu and Arch KDE.
How can I achieve this? I never changed the default scheduler before. I'd prefer to stay on the default kernel, because I don't have enough knowledge (and time or will) to maintain a custom kernel. The priority of the Baloo scheduler is the same between Debian and derivatives and Arch, as far as I can see.
Also, please consider filing an Arch bug with all relevant info. Since you tested this with the same kernel version on different distros, it's likely to be a configuration of the kernel and applications on each distro.
Sure I'll be doing that, but before I need to get more useful data to file a bug. -- fp
On 5/27/18, Francesco Porro via arch-general <arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
You mailed me privately. Better replying to mailing list since this could be
useful to others && please do not top quote.
Agreed, but I only replied to your direct mail to me. Apologies if I missed the CC somehow.
In data domenica 27 maggio 2018 18:27:22 CEST, hai scritto:
On 5/27/18, Francesco Porro via arch-general <arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
You mailed me privately. Better replying to mailing list since this could be
useful to others && please do not top quote.
Agreed, but I only replied to your direct mail to me. Apologies if I missed the CC somehow.
You don't need to add my address since I'm subscribed to the mailing list :) (it you do, and I hit reply, Kmail replys only to your email by default). Btw, today i'm going to try changing the scheduler to BFQ, even if I found a workaround that avoid the baloo scheduler activating every 10 seconds: simply I changed the path where to save Konversation's logs to his .config dir (baloo doen't indexes dotted files o dirs). -- fp
On 5/29/18, Francesco Porro via arch-general <arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
You don't need to add my address since I'm subscribed to the mailing list :)
(it you do, and I hit reply, Kmail replys only to your email by default).
I think there's some confusion. I checked the mail you sent me, and the only recipient was my address, no list addres in either field. Therefore I assumed you mailed me directly, off-list, and so I didn't add back the list in my reply. Usually, when someone does this, it's considered off-list and meant to be private. It's better to miss the list than expose a potentially personal email to the public list. Anyway, let's focus on the topic.
Btw, today i'm going to try changing the scheduler to BFQ, even if I
Do not expect magical fixes. It may or may not help the I/O load that's affecting you.
found a workaround that avoid the baloo scheduler activating every 10 seconds: simply I changed the path where to save Konversation's logs to his .config dir (baloo doen't indexes dotted files o dirs).
Interesting. That sounds like a performance bug in the interaction of Konversation and Baloo. But it's still odd that Debian doesn't have this. I assume the KDE version tested was the same on the different distros.
In data martedì 29 maggio 2018 13:14:00 CEST, hai scritto:
I think there's some confusion. I checked the mail you sent me, and the only recipient was my address, no list addres in either field. Therefore I assumed you mailed me directly, off-list, and so I didn't add back the list in my reply. Usually, when someone does this, it's considered off-list and meant to be private. It's better to miss the list than expose a potentially personal email to the public list.
Can you see you (or your Mua) added my address to CC? (since the first mail I got). If I hit reply, Kmail autofills the "To" field with your mailbox instead of the mailinglist address, and I have to switch to ml address manually every time (and accidentally I forgot to do it once, so you received a mail directly from me, you assumed was a private reply). Btw, no problem.
Interesting. That sounds like a performance bug in the interaction of Konversation and Baloo. But it's still odd that Debian doesn't have this. I assume the KDE version tested was the same on the different distros.
At this point I don't know if it's a bug of baloo or konversation (or a combination of the two), since It doesn't happen on Debian or Kubuntu. And yes, the version of KDE and related apps were the same. -- fp
On 05/29/2018 08:01 AM, Francesco Porro via arch-general wrote:
Can you see you (or your Mua) added my address to CC? (since the first mail I got). If I hit reply, Kmail autofills the "To" field with your mailbox instead of the mailinglist address, and I have to switch to ml address manually every time (and accidentally I forgot to do it once, so you received a mail directly from me, you assumed was a private reply). Btw, no problem. Sounds like a bug in kmail, my Thunderbird replaces the default reply button with "Reply to list" and only sends to the list.
I actually have to go into "More" ==> "Reply all" if I want to CC people automatically. Even the "Reply" option finds the mailinglist address as the *From* address to reply to. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
On 29-05-18 09:10:35 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
On 05/29/2018 08:01 AM, Francesco Porro via arch-general wrote:
Can you see you (or your Mua) added my address to CC? (since the first mail I got). If I hit reply, Kmail autofills the "To" field with your mailbox instead of the mailinglist address, and I have to switch to ml address manually every time (and accidentally I forgot to do it once, so you received a mail directly from me, you assumed was a private reply). Btw, no problem. Sounds like a bug in kmail, my Thunderbird replaces the default reply button with "Reply to list" and only sends to the list. Kmail has a reply to list button and it appears in the context menu as well. I don't remember kmail having a problem earlier when I used with respect to sending mails to a list. But this has been discussed a lot already :P -- Regards Jagan
In data martedì 29 maggio 2018 15:19:28 CEST, Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi via arch-general ha scritto:
On 29-05-18 09:10:35 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
On 05/29/2018 08:01 AM, Francesco Porro via arch-general wrote:
Can you see you (or your Mua) added my address to CC? (since the first mail I got). If I hit reply, Kmail autofills the "To" field with your mailbox instead of the mailinglist address, and I have to switch to ml address manually every time (and accidentally I forgot to do it once, so you received a mail directly from me, you assumed was a private reply). Btw, no problem.
Sounds like a bug in kmail, my Thunderbird replaces the default reply button with "Reply to list" and only sends to the list.
Kmail has a reply to list button and it appears in the context menu as well. I don't remember kmail having a problem earlier when I used with respect to sending mails to a list. But this has been discussed a lot already :P
Indeed. It does work properly if the sender is the mailing list address (eg. arch-general@archlinux.org), not the private address of the author (eg frapox at gmail dot com). -- fp
In data martedì 29 maggio 2018 16:26:14 CEST, hai scritto:
Indeed. It does work properly if the sender is the mailing list address (eg. arch-general@archlinux.org), not the private address of the author (eg frapox at gmail dot com).
Sorry I was imprecise... The "reply to mailing list" of KMail works fine if the mail you're replying to is coming from the list, not straight from the author. -- fp
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Carsten Mattner
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Eli Schwartz
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Francesco Porro
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Jagannathan Tiruvallur Eachambadi