On 2018-03-02 11:38, Dan Haworth wrote:

I had the same issue, seems to be related to the following bug https://github.com/mono/mono/issues/6752. I downgraded ncurses to 6.0 to get things going again.

--dan

Thanks, that was quick! I also had to install libtinfo5 (AUR) and symlink /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 to /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6 (I guess alternatively rebuilding Mono or something could work). Cheers!

On March 2, 2018 12:38:33 PM GMT+01:00, Dan Haworth wrote:

On 02/03/18 11:17, Alajos Odoyle wrote:

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On 2018-03-02 11:38, Dan Haworth wrote:

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I had the same issue, seems to be related to the following bug https://github.com/mono/mono/issues/6752. I downgraded ncurses to

6.0

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to get things going again.

--dan

Thanks, that was quick! I also had to install libtinfo5 (AUR) and symlink /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 to /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6 (I guess alternatively rebuilding Mono or something could work). Cheers!

I play a LOT of OpenRA ;)

Glad it solved your issue!

--dan

That's literally an incredibly stupid idea. Symlink /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 to /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6 does not magically make it compatible for both, it is ABI incompatible that's the whole point of a soname bump. Anything linking to libtinfo.so.6 may now be broken in one or the other way. never ever overwrite existing versioned so libs with any other version.

On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 17:56:52 +0100 Alajos Odoyle wrote:

On 2018-03-02 13:07, Levente Polyak via arch-general wrote:

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That's literally an incredibly stupid idea. Symlink /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 to /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6 does not magically make it compatible for both, it is ABI incompatible that's the whole point of a soname bump. Anything linking to libtinfo.so.6 may now be broken in one or the other way. never ever overwrite existing versioned so libs with any other version.

It will do until the fix made it into the Arch Linux Mono package. The reason for this message was to let people know that I had no issues applying this hack *so far*. People can decide for themselves if they want to do it quick and dirty or not-so-quick and properly (the latter which I referred to as "rebuilding Mono or something"). Calling the idea "incredibly stupid" is just unnecessary.

You may think it's unnecessary, but he's not wrong. Posting the info in the first place is the same as encouraging others to do something incredibly stupid, to the point where I would consider it malicious.

On 03/03/2018 11:56 AM, Alajos Odoyle wrote:

On 2018-03-02 13:07, Levente Polyak via arch-general wrote:

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That's literally an incredibly stupid idea. Symlink /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5 to /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6 does not magically make it compatible for both, it is ABI incompatible that's the whole point of a soname bump. Anything linking to libtinfo.so.6 may now be broken in one or the other way. never ever overwrite existing versioned so libs with any other version.

It will do until the fix made it into the Arch Linux Mono package. The reason for this message was to let people know that I had no issues applying this hack *so far*. People can decide for themselves if they want to do it quick and dirty or not-so-quick and properly (the latter which I referred to as "rebuilding Mono or something"). Calling the idea "incredibly stupid" is just unnecessary.

The worst problem with symlinking incompatible libraries together is that strictly speaking, the result is "undefined behavior", not "omg this segfaults everywhere". The undefined behavior in question may be segfaults, but it can just as easily be the application silently doing the wrong thing. So the fact that you are not aware of any issues, is not necessarily an indicator that there were in fact no issues. This is the other reason why it is stupid to do this, in addition to the one where you are subtly encouraging people who don't understand the issue to emulate you without knowing why. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User

On 2018-03-04 13:50, Guus Snijders via arch-general wrote:

Just out of curiosity; could you try deleting the symlink and LD_preloading /usr/lib/libtifinfo.so.5 ?

The current replies on the ML are a technically correct, though a bit blunt. If the preload tricks actually works, we could advice the next user a bit better ;).

Mvg, Guus Snijders

I tried and it does not work unfortunately. Cheers!