[arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?
Listmates, I installed koffice and attempted to open an openoffice (.odt) document and kword crashed immediately. Next I opened kword again to read through the help file and any notes, and the help doesn't seem to work either: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/koffice.jpg The backtrace for the kword crash is: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kword.kcrash Is there a work-around that will let me get the help file working? It looks to be a kde3 desktop/kde4 runtime issue. Any help appreciated. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On or about Tuesday 19 May 2009 at approximately 02:42:40 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. composed:
Listmates,
I installed koffice and attempted to open an openoffice (.odt) document and kword crashed immediately. Next I opened kword again to read through the help file and any notes, and the help doesn't seem to work either:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/koffice.jpg
The backtrace for the kword crash is:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kword.kcrash
Is there a work-around that will let me get the help file working? It looks to be a kde3 desktop/kde4 runtime issue. Any help appreciated.
OOOH, This is much worse than I thought. kword will not even open a text file without crashing. Where does this bug go? Arch, kdemod or kde?. I seems like it should go to Arch because there is something wildly incompatible between the koffice build and kde3. Here is the additional kcrash backtract from trying to open the text file if that will help sort out where the bug should go. Thanks. Also, here is the *contents* of the 1-line txt file kword crashed trying to open: 2008-03-08a-MERGED.txt Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release??? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 02:51 -0500, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release???
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14698 I think that says all. KOffice 2.0RC isn't a release candidate, and 2.0 isn't a stable usable release.
On or about Tuesday 19 May 2009 at approximately 02:59:02 Jan de Groot composed:
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 02:51 -0500, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release???
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14698
I think that says all. KOffice 2.0RC isn't a release candidate, and 2.0 isn't a stable usable release.
Yes, I saw that, but the latest version is a "Release Candidate 1" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
As far as I know, Koffice has never reach the stable stage a the moment. Maybe cause dev have jump from RC to "working on KDE4 version". So I don't know if you will found any stable koffice apps for KDE3. Like Grigorios Bouzakis have said, I guess it's time for an upgrade to KDE4. I'm using it atm, and I have no trouble. I've just no kde graphical tools for network. But for someone editing his /etc/group file by hand with vim in place of vigr, I think it's not a problem ;-)
On or about Sunday 24 May 2009 at approximately 12:19:25 ludovic coues composed:
As far as I know, Koffice has never reach the stable stage a the moment. Maybe cause dev have jump from RC to "working on KDE4 version". So I don't know if you will found any stable koffice apps for KDE3.
Like Grigorios Bouzakis have said, I guess it's time for an upgrade to KDE4. I'm using it atm, and I have no trouble. I've just no kde graphical tools for network. But for someone editing his /etc/group file by hand with vim in place of vigr, I think it's not a problem ;-)
You are right, it is time for an upgrade (kicking and screaming) to kde4. I'm just hesitant about the time involved to write/research all the bugs related to disappearing widgets and plasmoids. I have had 2 prior kde 4 installs (4.01 on openSuSE 11.0 and 4.1 on openSuSE 11.1) both were disasters at best. But they were the source of some rather "unique" screenshots: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_11.1/compizcrash-blackcube.jpg (just think through what it took to pull that screenshot off ;-) But with support waning for kde3 and with app development for kde3 all but extinct, the inevitable looms on the horizon. The real killer, and it is also the real killer for Arch on my laptop, is the lack of a fglrx driver. Currently with kde3 on openSuSE 11.0, I have the last good fglrx driver for my hardware. With the advent of xorg 7.4 in kde4, all fglrx drivers subsequent to Sept. 08 haven't worked on my box (Radeon X1200). I'm writing this from Arch on my laptop with the radeonhd driver and I keep having to lift my left hand up off the palm rest to keep it from burning. (No shit, it's HOT) Downclocking in the radeonhd driver and remaining powerdown of unused portions of the gpu is getting better, but it can't compare to the downclocking/powerdown of the fglrx driver. With the fglrx driver, my laptop stays cool and it is usable. Without it, I'm going to need to glue 1/4 inch neoprene pad to the palm rest, or wear gloves, to be able to use it. That is even with my gpu manually downclocked in my xorg.conf to roughly 30% of its normal clock speed (400MHz) with: Option "ForceLowPowerMode" Option "LowPowerModeEngineClock" "140000" Enough of the rambling, I'll give kde4 a go. Last question, which is the best way to install it? kdemod or the default kde4 from the Arch repos. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
I've install it directly from the Arch repos. And with a mobility radeon X2300, default setting, my computer is moving from 40°C to 50°C. By the way, I've no 3D cool desktop stuff. And KDE4 can provide this to you, like a really cool desktop cube for desktop switching. i love it with only 12 desktop. But I've problem with some app and this. Like dragon, the video player. Blender is not usable too with 3D stuff actived. But I suppose it's related to my graphic card. For wikipedia, this one support openGL 2.0. But my system say openGL 1.3 mesa 7.4.2. May the luck be with you, for this try ;-)
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Tuesday 19 May 2009 at approximately 02:42:40 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. composed:
Listmates,
I installed koffice and attempted to open an openoffice (.odt) document and kword crashed immediately. Next I opened kword again to read through the help file and any notes, and the help doesn't seem to work either:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/koffice.jpg
The backtrace for the kword crash is:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kword.kcrash
Is there a work-around that will let me get the help file working? It looks to be a kde3 desktop/kde4 runtime issue. Any help appreciated.
OOOH,
This is much worse than I thought. kword will not even open a text file without crashing. Where does this bug go? Arch, kdemod or kde?. I seems like it should go to Arch because there is something wildly incompatible between the koffice build and kde3. Here is the additional kcrash backtract from trying to open the text file if that will help sort out where the bug should go. Thanks.
Also, here is the *contents* of the 1-line txt file kword crashed trying to open:
2008-03-08a-MERGED.txt
Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release???
I guess its time for you to upgrade to KDE4... The Arch package is a KDE4 package. IIRC you are still using KDE3. Although i certainly dont guarantee this will work. -- Greg
On or about Tuesday 19 May 2009 at approximately 02:51:09 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. composed:
OOOH,
This is much worse than I thought. kword will not even open a text file without crashing. Where does this bug go? Arch, kdemod or kde?. I seems like it should go to Arch because there is something wildly incompatible between the koffice build and kde3. Here is the additional kcrash backtract from trying to open the text file if that will help sort out where the bug should go. Thanks.
Also, here is the *contents* of the 1-line txt file kword crashed trying to open:
2008-03-08a-MERGED.txt
Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release???
Testing on kspread, kpresent and karbon14 went much better. Ironically, kspread had no problem with the text file that cratered kword. However, there is another wicked little issue with those apps. For some reason they each cause flashes and screen artifacts with my laptop and radeonhd driver. I have been using my laptop near continually for several weeks with arch and the radeonhd driver and the screen/display was never a freaky (for lack of better words) as it was with the koffice apps open. I have closed them to compose this messagee and all is well again. Reality rears its ugly head: KDE3 + KDE4 Runtime Apps = Nothing but trouble.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
OOOH,
This is much worse than I thought. kword will not even open a text file without crashing. Where does this bug go? Arch, kdemod or kde?. I seems like it should go to Arch because there is something wildly incompatible between the koffice build and kde3. Here is the additional kcrash backtract from trying to open the text file if that will help sort out where the bug should go. Thanks.
Also, here is the *contents* of the 1-line txt file kword crashed trying to open:
2008-03-08a-MERGED.txt
Yes, that is the total 22 byte contents that crashed kmail. And this is a RC release???
Seems to me this is a kdemod issue, though not necessarily a bug. You'd need to get a version of koffice that's built for kdemod3, since the one that Arch provides is built for KDE4. Doesn't look like kdemod3 supplies one though. Perhaps if the PKGBUILD is not too difficult, you might be able to do it yourself. You can probably browse back in Arch's SVN and locate the spot where koffice got upgraded for KDE4, and then take the old PKGBUILD and try building it yourself. HTH, DR
participants (5)
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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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David Rosenstrauch
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Grigorios Bouzakis
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Jan de Groot
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ludovic coues