[arch-general] Fresh install of 2009.08 -> hal, dbus, PK - no mount of usb for normal user (again...)
Guys, I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet. In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly, (1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su) (2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them What makes no sense to me is that after root has accessed the drives, the user can use them (I guess the actual "mount" occurs when root access the drives, even though kde4 shows them as connected for the user through the notifier popup in the task bar) I finally just wrote a script to mount removables under /mnt that can be called by the users (basically uses sudo to mount and case on partition name and size to mount the drives on the proper mount points) Something has got to give. I've wiki'ed myself into a coma and still -- no joy. If one of the arch mount-removable gurus would just slip me the secret, I would be much abliged :-) It has to be simple, but simplicity has escaped me for quite some time now. However, I am determined to get it right with the new install. I know the wiki well, but where is the other document that I can use along with the wiki to make sure I have a good working system? Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal, dbus and PK. Rankin" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
You may have already looked at/tried this, but all I did was use the hack in
here for PK to allow non-root users to mount removable drives and it all
works fine.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL#Mounting_fails
Hope this helps...
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2009/11/5 David C. Rankin
Guys,
I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet.
In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly,
(1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su)
(2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them
What makes no sense to me is that after root has accessed the drives, the user can use them (I guess the actual "mount" occurs when root access the drives, even though kde4 shows them as connected for the user through the notifier popup in the task bar)
I finally just wrote a script to mount removables under /mnt that can be called by the users (basically uses sudo to mount and case on partition name and size to mount the drives on the proper mount points)
Something has got to give. I've wiki'ed myself into a coma and still -- no joy. If one of the arch mount-removable gurus would just slip me the secret, I would be much abliged :-) It has to be simple, but simplicity has escaped me for quite some time now. However, I am determined to get it right with the new install. I know the wiki well, but where is the other document that I can use along with the wiki to make sure I have a good working system?
Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal, dbus and PK. Rankin"
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On 11/05/2009 01:06 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet.
In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly,
(1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su)
(2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them
Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal, dbus and PK. Rankin"
Here's what I did to get this working under KDE4 (and now Xfce): * make sure dbus is running * make sure hal is running * use the stock /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf (i.e., remove any edits you may have made) * if you're using a login manager (or launch script) that doesn't automatically invoke console kit for you (e.g., slim, /etc/inittab, etc.), then launch your window manager session using ck-launch-session (e.g., "exec ck-launch-session startkde") That's it. After following these directions, if I plug in an iPod, a thumb drive, or even insert a CD, then KDE or Xfce will automatically get notified about the new media, alert me accordingly, and allow me to mount/browse the new device. If this doesn't work for you, please feel free to email back with details as to what failed. HTH, DR
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM, David Rosenstrauch
On 11/05/2009 01:06 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet.
In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly,
(1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su)
(2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them
Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal,
dbus and PK. Rankin"
Here's what I did to get this working under KDE4 (and now Xfce):
* make sure dbus is running * make sure hal is running * use the stock /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf (i.e., remove any edits you may have made) * if you're using a login manager (or launch script) that doesn't automatically invoke console kit for you (e.g., slim, /etc/inittab, etc.), then launch your window manager session using ck-launch-session (e.g., "exec ck-launch-session startkde")
That's it. After following these directions, if I plug in an iPod, a thumb drive, or even insert a CD, then KDE or Xfce will automatically get notified about the new media, alert me accordingly, and allow me to mount/browse the new device.
If this doesn't work for you, please feel free to email back with details as to what failed.
HTH,
DR
I guess removable devices works (at least for me), but the problem appears while trying to mount a fixed storage. -- Flávio Coutinho da Costa
On 11/05/2009 10:37 AM, Flavio Costa wrote:
I guess removable devices works (at least for me), but the problem appears while trying to mount a fixed storage.
Removable devices was what the OP was asking about. Is HAL even supposed to provide auto-mount capabilities for fixed storage? If so, this is the first I've heard of it. But I was under the impression that it just provides "hot-plug" functionality - which would make this not actually a "problem". DR
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David C. Rankin
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David Rosenstrauch
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Ed Morgan
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Flavio Costa