[arch-general] Thunderbird bugging with Lightning + Enigmail
Hello list, After doing the last Thunderbird update from 3.0-1 to 3.0-2 (x86_64), with the added Lightning add-on, my menus don't work very well [1]. If I disable either Lightning or Enigmail they work, they just don't work when the add-ons are loaded together. I've started up Thunderbird from the console to see if I get any output and enabled debug on Enigmail but apparently nothing goes wrong. The problem is that I have no idea where to file a bug report... Arch, Enigmail, Lightning or Thunderbird? Is anyone having this issue? Best regards, Paulo Santos [1] http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/442/thunderbirdbug.png
On 12/15/2009 01:11 PM, Paulo Santos wrote:
Hello list,
After doing the last Thunderbird update from 3.0-1 to 3.0-2 (x86_64), with the added Lightning add-on, my menus don't work very well [1]. If I disable either Lightning or Enigmail they work, they just don't work when the add-ons are loaded together.
I've started up Thunderbird from the console to see if I get any output and enabled debug on Enigmail but apparently nothing goes wrong.
The problem is that I have no idea where to file a bug report... Arch, Enigmail, Lightning or Thunderbird? Is anyone having this issue?
Best regards, Paulo Santos
[1] http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/442/thunderbirdbug.png
i don't think that enigmail is required with thunderbird 3. i can sign and encrypt emails without enigmail. thunderbird + ligthning working fine here.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Ionut Biru <ibiru@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 01:11 PM, Paulo Santos wrote:
Hello list,
After doing the last Thunderbird update from 3.0-1 to 3.0-2 (x86_64), with the added Lightning add-on, my menus don't work very well [1]. If I disable either Lightning or Enigmail they work, they just don't work when the add-ons are loaded together.
I've started up Thunderbird from the console to see if I get any output and enabled debug on Enigmail but apparently nothing goes wrong.
The problem is that I have no idea where to file a bug report... Arch, Enigmail, Lightning or Thunderbird? Is anyone having this issue?
Best regards, Paulo Santos
[1] http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/442/thunderbirdbug.png
i don't think that enigmail is required with thunderbird 3. i can sign and encrypt emails without enigmail. thunderbird + ligthning working fine here.
It is required if you want to sign/encrypt emails using GnuPG/PGP, TB can only handle certificate based sign/encrypt on its own. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
On 12/15/2009 06:30 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:
It is required if you want to sign/encrypt emails using GnuPG/PGP, TB can only handle certificate based sign/encrypt on its own.
How are you guys getting enigmail installed with TB 3.X? Every time I try and install it, it tells me that it is incompatible with my version of TB?? Are there '2' different enigmails at mozilla.org? (if so, I haven't gone far enough down the list) Magnus is 100% correct about the gnupg/pgp operation requiring enigmail. I went through the default certificate config and confirmed there was no way to make my gpg keys work. I'm glad to hear that enigmail will allow integration again. (one I find the right one -- or once the package is upgraded for 3.x) The cost of progress.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On 12/18/2009 01:55 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/15/2009 06:30 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:
It is required if you want to sign/encrypt emails using GnuPG/PGP, TB can only handle certificate based sign/encrypt on its own.
How are you guys getting enigmail installed with TB 3.X? Every time I try and install it, it tells me that it is incompatible with my version of TB?? Are there '2' different enigmails at mozilla.org? (if so, I haven't gone far enough down the list)
Magnus is 100% correct about the gnupg/pgp operation requiring enigmail. I went through the default certificate config and confirmed there was no way to make my gpg keys work. I'm glad to hear that enigmail will allow integration again. (one I find the right one -- or once the package is upgraded for 3.x)
The cost of progress....
what about that? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28640 i'm not using enigmail so i don't know if is working or not. -- Ionut
On 12/17/2009 04:55 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/15/2009 06:30 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:
It is required if you want to sign/encrypt emails using GnuPG/PGP, TB can only handle certificate based sign/encrypt on its own.
How are you guys getting enigmail installed with TB 3.X? Every time I try and install it, it tells me that it is incompatible with my version of TB?? Are there '2' different enigmails at mozilla.org? (if so, I haven't gone far enough down the list)
Magnus is 100% correct about the gnupg/pgp operation requiring enigmail. I went through the default certificate config and confirmed there was no way to make my gpg keys work. I'm glad to hear that enigmail will allow integration again. (one I find the right one -- or once the package is upgraded for 3.x)
The cost of progress....
If you go to Tools -> Addons, there will be a "Recommended" page. I just scrolled down and Enigmail was #2 on the list.
On 12/17/2009 08:02 PM, Brendan Long wrote:
If you go to Tools -> Addons, there will be a "Recommended" page. I just scrolled down and Enigmail was #2 on the list.
I bet you have an i686 box. I think I'm bitten by the x86_64 problem. Because I too have it as the #2 recommended addon, but after it downloads, it fails on install with the "not compatible" message. I'll check the abs package. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:24 AM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 12/17/2009 08:02 PM, Brendan Long wrote:
If you go to Tools -> Addons, there will be a "Recommended" page. I just scrolled down and Enigmail was #2 on the list.
I bet you have an i686 box. I think I'm bitten by the x86_64 problem. Because I too have it as the #2 recommended addon, but after it downloads, it fails on install with the "not compatible" message. I'll check the abs package.
Go to http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/index.php you'll be able to put in the combination "linux (x86_64)" and "Thunderbird 3.0" (thanks to a fellow Arch user it seems :-) That's the add-on I'm using at home. Do note that the reports of incompatibility between lightning and enigmail are fully true, i.e. have both add-ons enabled and you'll loose some text in your menu, disable either and everything looks good again. Irritating indeed! /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
Le 18/12/2009 08:33, Magnus Therning a écrit :
Go to http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/index.php you'll be able to put in the combination "linux (x86_64)" and "Thunderbird 3.0" (thanks to a fellow Arch user it seems :-)
Hi there, I'm the maintainer of the enigmail package on AUR, and I've contributed x86_64 builds of Enigmail since the 0.95.7 release. The .xpi on the website is built using the AUR package, so both are good ;)
That's the add-on I'm using at home. Do note that the reports of incompatibility between lightning and enigmail are fully true, i.e. have both add-ons enabled and you'll loose some text in your menu, disable either and everything looks good again. Irritating indeed!
I have both Lightning and Enigmail too, but I have never encountered any problem. May this be related to a GTK theme or something like this? Cheers, -- Thomas/Schnouki
On 12/18/2009 06:30 AM, Thomas Jost wrote:
Hi there,
I'm the maintainer of the enigmail package on AUR, and I've contributed x86_64 builds of Enigmail since the 0.95.7 release.
The .xpi on the website is built using the AUR package, so both are good ;)
Thomas, Thank you for all your effort. While we have you here, "How can I get me themes to work in TB 3?" I can get all the firefox extensions to work with extensions.checkUpdateSecurity=false, but that doesn't work with TB. Is the change to 3.0 actually a change that makes the themes incompatible rather than a security check issue? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Le 19/12/2009 10:00, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 12/18/2009 06:30 AM, Thomas Jost wrote:
Hi there,
I'm the maintainer of the enigmail package on AUR, and I've contributed x86_64 builds of Enigmail since the 0.95.7 release.
The .xpi on the website is built using the AUR package, so both are good ;)
Thomas,
Thank you for all your effort. While we have you here, "How can I get me themes to work in TB 3?" I can get all the firefox extensions to work with extensions.checkUpdateSecurity=false, but that doesn't work with TB. Is the change to 3.0 actually a change that makes the themes incompatible rather than a security check issue?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.
I don't know much about themes (I'm happy with the default one), but it seems they are pretty much like extensions: you can unzip them, edit the install.rdf file and bump the maxVersion to something like "3.0.*", recompress them, and then try to install them. (emacs users, you can of course edit the file in the archive without having to unzip it first :)) Another note: extensions.checkUpdateSecurity is used to check if extensions provide secure updates. To disable compatibility checks, you should use extensions.checkCompatibility. According to [1], this should work in Thunderbird as well as in Firefox. Please keep in mind that I did not test what I'm suggesting here. Making a backup of your TB profile first may be a very good idea :) [1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility#Has_an_effect_in -- Thomas/Schnouki
On 18/12/09 12:30, Thomas Jost wrote:
Le 18/12/2009 08:33, Magnus Therning a écrit : [..]
That's the add-on I'm using at home. Do note that the reports of incompatibility between lightning and enigmail are fully true, i.e. have both add-ons enabled and you'll loose some text in your menu, disable either and everything looks good again. Irritating indeed!
I have both Lightning and Enigmail too, but I have never encountered any problem.
Interesting.
May this be related to a GTK theme or something like this?
How would I test this? What combination of TB theme and GTK theme are you using? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
Le 19/12/2009 21:25, Magnus Therning a écrit :
May this be related to a GTK theme or something like this?
How would I test this? What combination of TB theme and GTK theme are you using?
Default TB theme, GTK theme: Aurora. My window manager is Awesome; I'm not using KDE, Gnome, XFCE or any other full desktop environment. -- Thomas/Schnouki
On 12/18/2009 01:33 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:
Go tohttp://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/index.php you'll be able to put in the combination "linux (x86_64)" and "Thunderbird 3.0" (thanks to a fellow Arch user it seems :-)
That's the add-on I'm using at home. Do note that the reports of incompatibility between lightning and enigmail are fully true, i.e. have both add-ons enabled and you'll loose some text in your menu, disable either and everything looks good again. Irritating indeed!
/M
You're Good... Thanks Magnus! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
participants (7)
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Brendan Long
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David C. Rankin
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Ionut Biru
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Ionut Biru
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Magnus Therning
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Paulo Santos
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Thomas Jost