[arch-general] The principle behind MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners?
Go to google.com and search for MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners. You'll find a big list. So what's the principle of their working? I'm thinking of writing a pidgin plugin to catch invisible buddies. -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com VPS Hosting: http://www.itech7.com/a/vps
On 29 August 2010 01:24, Nilesh Govindarajan
Go to google.com and search for MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners. You'll find a big list.
So what's the principle of their working?
Nothing but LOL and immaturity. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
On 28 August 2010 19:24, Nilesh Govindarajan
Go to google.com and search for MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners. You'll find a big list.
So what's the principle of their working? I'm thinking of writing a pidgin plugin to catch invisible buddies.
I guess they do some ping-like thing.
2010-08-28 22:54 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan:
Go to google.com and search for MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners. You'll find a big list.
So what's the principle of their working?
A while ago I heard the following: http://cryptome.org/0001/ms-spy-takedown.htm
On 08/28/2010 12:24 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
MSN & Yahoo invisible scanners
Dunno, don't use either, but I was curious enough to take a look and see what the heck it was anyway. Here is the article that gave me the best background on at least what the visible/invisible debate was about. That's as far as I dug, but good luck with your project. Here is the link: http://www.geckoandfly.com/1818/how-to-detect-and-find-invisible-users-on-ya... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Mind you that since some time ago it seems this "feature" is not reliable anymore. The are msn clients that had this functionality built-in and things have gone south when it started to malfunction and reporting some users as being blocked or deleted when in fact they are not. As far as I know no one knows for sure what the problem was (maybe just a change in protocol or a deliberate change). I have tested it myself with several different accounts and it was similar to a russian roulette, this "feature" was not reliable anymore in identifying when one has been blocked/deleted. Search more about this in mercury's forums, at least the problem came up there and also on amsn's forums if I remember correctly. -- Mauro Santos
On 09/06/2010 11:17 PM, Mauro Santos wrote:
Mind you that since some time ago it seems this "feature" is not reliable anymore.
The are msn clients that had this functionality built-in and things have gone south when it started to malfunction and reporting some users as being blocked or deleted when in fact they are not.
As far as I know no one knows for sure what the problem was (maybe just a change in protocol or a deliberate change). I have tested it myself with several different accounts and it was similar to a russian roulette, this "feature" was not reliable anymore in identifying when one has been blocked/deleted.
Search more about this in mercury's forums, at least the problem came up there and also on amsn's forums if I remember correctly.
Sorry to double post but as you can see my reply clearly does not apply to the invisible scan but to deleted/blocked detection, my mistake. However it may be possible that invisible detection may stop working reliably in the future too. -- Mauro Santos
On 09/06/2010 05:20 PM, Mauro Santos wrote:
Sorry to double post but as you can see my reply clearly does not apply to the invisible scan but to deleted/blocked detection, my mistake. However it may be possible that invisible detection may stop working reliably in the future too.
No problem. Thanks Mauro. Hopefully the OP will have success with his efforts. (I always end up asking the question of: "Why would anyone ever use yahoo or msn to begin with?" But, to each his own...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On 09/07/2010 01:14 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
(I always end up asking the question of: "Why would anyone ever use yahoo or msn to begin with?" But, to each his own...)
That has a very simple reason, I guess some people come from windows, much like I did, we all have friends/acquaintances/contacts (which have friends/acquaintances/contacts of their ow) that only use windows and/or msn/yahoo and do not even consider changing to another instant messenger. Some might try something else just for fun but always end up ditching the alternative so if you want to have a real time chat with your friends there is no choice. -- Mauro Santos
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David C. Rankin
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F. Gr.
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Lukáš Jirkovský
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Mauro Santos
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Nilesh Govindarajan
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Ray Rashif