On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:14:22AM -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Rafael Beraldo <rafaelluisberaldo@gmail.com> wrote:

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You may have seen this, however it is interesting to spread the word: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/16/0340226/Adobe-Releases-New-64-bit-F...

<http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/16/0340226/Adobe-Releases-New-64-bit-Flash-Plugin-For-Linux>I hope this comes to the repositories soon…it is kind of sad, though, 'cause a great deal of people (including me) might use [multilib] just because of Flash.

It is in AUR already. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32072. As it is only a prerelease, it shouldn't be in the repos, though.

The former 64-bit flash plugin was never anything but a pre-release. d

Am Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:14:03 +0530 schrieb Madhurya Kakati <mkakati2805@gmail.com>:

So I guess its time to remove flashplugin I installed from multilib and replace it with 'square'??

Like I've written on the arch-multilib mailing list I'd prefer to having flashplugin in [multilib] renamed to lib32-flashplugin or bin32-flashplugin and the new 64 bit version added to [extra] as flashplugin at least if the new 64 bit version is stable and secure enough. Heiko

On 09/19/2010 02:18 AM, Caleb Cushing wrote:

++ the general consensus was to leave 64-bit flash in... when adobe cancelled it for a bit... I don't know why it ever got removed. I've had problems recently with flash and I suspect it's due to running a 32-bit version.

The 64bit version of the plugin was removed because it had a (serious?) security flaw and it was decided to provide the 32bit version which contained a fix even though it can be a little problematic (some users report more problems) and messy. Regarding crashes, here I didn't notice any increase in problems after the change ... it's still crappy flash with sub-par linux support. I would like to see a 64bit version of flash on the repos but I can't blame the devs/maintainers if they have some doubts about changing things yet again, it seems adobe can't make up its mind about 64bit support. -- Mauro Santos

What's kind of sad is that people support and use adobes flash. Gnash might not work that well, but at least you'll kind of show support for free software.

I would use gnash or lightspark, if they could be used together whit adobes flash

2010/9/16 Linus Eklöf <kazchjack@gmail.com> like having some white list for video sites or somesort of analyzer that will firtsh go trought the flash show binary to see if it is 100% supported by gnash/... and if it isint then use the adobes version. I think that at the moment what most users need flash for are 100% flash only sites and games

On 16 September 2010 11:53, Linus Eklöf <kazchjack@gmail.com> wrote:

What's kind of sad is that people support and use adobes flash. Gnash might not work that well, but at least you'll kind of show support for free software.

Yes, using proprietary software is kind of sad but neither Gnash or Lightspark are really usable right now...Once in a while I test Lightspark and I am excited with it. How knows if someday it will replace Adobe's Flash? Now, I don't need to justify myself to anyone, however, I totally support free software both using and showing it off to people that are interested in it; my post here was just aiming practical aspects of using a computer, if you understand what I mean. What should one do when a college colleague sends they a damn doc? Should they answer “hey send me in odt or txt or some pure format!” -- or should they just use OpenOffice or Google Docs to open it and not bother people with ideology? Open source isn't something that tears apart good from bad people. Anyway, software is becoming more and more open nowadays, that's what I think, so these “ philosophical issues” are hopefully going to disappear. I'm sorry if I went off-topic. -- Rafael Beraldo http://devio.us/~revberaldo/

I know it doesn't adress the problem with flash, but are a side note. Most of us only use flash in order to view flash videos, an most of the time we also would like to download them. For this ytmp ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40172) is a great substitute and let you view the videos in your own movieplayer or download them. 2010/9/17 Loui Chang <louipc.ist@gmail.com>

On Thu 16 Sep 2010 16:53 +0200, Linus Eklöf wrote:

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What's kind of sad is that people support and use adobes flash. Gnash might not work that well, but at least you'll kind of show support for free software.

What's really sad is that so many sites rely on flash in the first place.

Christian Larsson wrote:

I know it doesn't adress the problem with flash, but are a side note. Most of us only use flash in order to view flash videos, an most of the time we also would like to download them. For this ytmp ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40172) is a great substitute and let you view the videos in your own movieplayer or download them.

youtube is not such a big problem nowadays, since you can use the html5 beta and many players can play them diractly. OTOH other sites using their own system (metacafe, some newspapers...) are inaccessible. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com