Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ? Tools like envy24ctl or hdspmixer are really not an option when you use one of the soundcards they are meant to control. You need them for things to work at all. Any other distros I know would put them in the equivalent of core. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +0100, fons@kokkinizita.net wrote:
Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ?
Tools like envy24ctl or hdspmixer are really not an option when you use one of the soundcards they are meant to control. You need them for things to work at all.
Any other distros I know would put them in the equivalent of core.
Ciao,
Hi fons, I believe the standard answer is that it'll be taken up if/when there's anyone interested in maintaining it?
2010/1/25 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee@gmail.com>:
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +0100, fons@kokkinizita.net wrote:
Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ?
Tools like envy24ctl or hdspmixer are really not an option when you use one of the soundcards they are meant to control. You need them for things to work at all.
Any other distros I know would put them in the equivalent of core.
Ciao,
Hi fons, I believe the standard answer is that it'll be taken up if/when there's anyone interested in maintaining it?
And, in this case, the answer to "why isn't in the repos already?" is: because no one has needed it
2010/1/26 <fons@kokkinizita.net>:
Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ?
What exactly do you mean by "bits and pieces"? -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 02:23:59PM +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
2010/1/26 <fons@kokkinizita.net>:
Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ?
What exactly do you mean by "bits and pieces"?
Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work ! Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !
On 26/01/10 21:24, fons@kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 02:23:59PM +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
2010/1/26<fons@kokkinizita.net>:
Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ?
What exactly do you mean by "bits and pieces"?
Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work !
What about the "alsa-tools" package? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2896
Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:24:26 +0100 schrieb fons@kokkinizita.net:
Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work !
alsa-tools are split in AUR just to reduce the dependencies and to save space because every tool in alsa-tools is only for one sound or audio card and must be compiled separately anyway. And if you e.g. have an ice1712 based audio card like the M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 you only need the GTK based envy24control but no other tool of this package. This way you save diskspace and you don't need Qt as a dependency which is a dependency for at least one other tool and therefore for the complete alsa-tools package. In the repos this could be implemented by a split package or probably by optdepends. Greetings, Heiko
Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:24:26 +0100 schrieb fons@kokkinizita.net:
Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work !
One other advantage of these split packages in AUR is that in case of a possible bug you still can compile and install the tool you need if another tool and the complete package would fail to build. Greetings, Heiko
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