[arch-general] Conky autostart problem
Hello! Using Arch with Gnome, I can start and run Conky manually. But I can't get it to autostart. As stated in the Arch wiki Gnome article, Tweak tool will add autostarts, but there is no entry for Conky in the list of application programs accessed by using the " + " button. It also says to "copy the relevant .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/ to ~/.config/autostart" . . . Well, even after re-installing Conky, ~/.config/autostart is empty, and /usr/share/applications has no entry for Conky. Also, /usr/share/applications does not seem to have anything like a "conky.desktop" file. So, do I need to create a "conky.desktop" file, and if so, how? P.S. I can't seem to find a good answer using a search engine. And I really don't want to (and should not have to) try downgrading (and then upgrading again) Gnome, just to try something obsolete referred to as "gnome-session-properties".
On Fri, 1 May 2015 21:36:30 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
So, do I need to create a "conky.desktop" file, and if so, how?
"Add a ~/.config/autostart/conky.desktop: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=0.9.4 Type=Application Name=conky Comment= Exec=conky -d StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Hidden=false" - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky "Integrate with Gnome 3 Some have experienced problems with conky showing up under Gnome 3. Add these lines to ~/.conkyrc: own_window yes own_window_type conky own_window_transparent yes own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager If you still experience problems with transparency. You could add these lines. own_window_argb_visual yes own_window_argb_value 255" - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky#Integrate_with_Gnome_3 This might not solve your issue. I'm neither a GNOME, nor a conky user. $ pacman -Qi conky error: package 'conky' was not found However, if you are used to GUIs and GNOME shouldn't provide GUIs were you can add autostart.desktop files to ~/.config/autostart/ that aren't listed, use the tool of another DE following freedesktop.org thingies, e.g. xfce4-session-settings .
Thanks, Ralf! The conky.desktop file you listed above, from the XFCE section of https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky does indeed autostart conky under Gnome 3. I had no idea a that a config file for XFCE could be used with Gnome. I also found this skeleton ".desktop" file online (from a 2011 posting), that also works: [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Exec=/usr/bin/conky Hidden=false X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true Name[en_US]=conky Name=conky Comment[en_US]=conky Comment=conky I don't seem to need the lines from: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky#Integrate_with_Gnome_3, although I did need to add "double_buffer yes" to the ~/.conkrc file. Thanks again. On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 May 2015 21:36:30 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
So, do I need to create a "conky.desktop" file, and if so, how?
"Add a ~/.config/autostart/conky.desktop:
[Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=0.9.4 Type=Application Name=conky Comment= Exec=conky -d StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Hidden=false" - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky
"Integrate with Gnome 3
Some have experienced problems with conky showing up under Gnome 3.
Add these lines to ~/.conkyrc:
own_window yes own_window_type conky own_window_transparent yes own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
If you still experience problems with transparency. You could add these lines.
own_window_argb_visual yes own_window_argb_value 255" - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky#Integrate_with_Gnome_3
This might not solve your issue. I'm neither a GNOME, nor a conky user. $ pacman -Qi conky error: package 'conky' was not found
However, if you are used to GUIs and GNOME shouldn't provide GUIs were you can add autostart.desktop files to ~/.config/autostart/ that aren't listed, use the tool of another DE following freedesktop.org thingies, e.g. xfce4-session-settings .
On Sat, 2 May 2015 11:35:03 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
I had no idea a that a config file for XFCE could be used with Gnome.
The *.desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ are a freedesktop.org specification. Xfce and GNOME follow this specification. The WMs I'm using, JWM and openbox don't use ~/.config/autostart/. http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
On 2 May 2015 at 21:13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2015 11:35:03 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
I had no idea a that a config file for XFCE could be used with Gnome.
The *.desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ are a freedesktop.org specification. Xfce and GNOME follow this specification. The WMs I'm using, JWM and openbox don't use ~/.config/autostart/.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
Note that you can use a standalone application like dex if your WM doesn't start applications from ~/.config/autostart. You can put it in your xinitrc or possibly your WM configuration.
On Sun, 3 May 2015 11:37:58 +0200, Maarten de Vries wrote:
On 2 May 2015 at 21:13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2015 11:35:03 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
I had no idea a that a config file for XFCE could be used with Gnome.
The *.desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ are a freedesktop.org specification. Xfce and GNOME follow this specification. The WMs I'm using, JWM and openbox don't use ~/.config/autostart/.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
Note that you can use a standalone application like dex if your WM doesn't start applications from ~/.config/autostart. You can put it in your xinitrc
or possibly your WM configuration.
I know. I'm using the WM's configurations. Allow me a short off-topic rant about DEs. My intention was only to explain that usually bloated DEs or DEs that follow the rule to break the user's work flow or themes when upgrading, such as Xfce4 and GNOME, follow even odd desktop standards and OTOH e.g. KDE can't be used with Gimp and Ardour regarding a broken windows handling [1], despite the claim it follows freedesktop.org specifications. I also never found out what used by KDE does wake up green drives, for Xfce and GNOME this can be turned off, by removing gvfs. Btw. it's nice that freedesktop.org specs DEs often cause issues, when they are installed side by side, e.g. multiple trash cans on the desktop, issues after using the file manager of another de, changing wallpapers and even panels. JFTR the only menus that are really easy to customize, without side effects, are menus that don't care about the freedesktop.org specs. In the end we anyway end up replacing terminal emulations of DEs with ROXTerm, the Editor with our favourite editor etc., so the only advantage in theory is the eye-candy, but as Xfce4 and GNOME have proven, themes often only work until the next update. I never run into issues with the lightweight WMs JWM and openbox. Resp. they have one drawback, sometimes a window opens under a panel on top and there's the need to move it using the mouse, while pushing a key on the keyboard. As always, JMMV ;)! [1] Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 07:58:28 -0400 From: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> Cc: ardour-users <ardour-users@lists.ardour.org> Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Ardour 4.0 rc3 On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:37 PM, j. wrote:
Only option at that point was to kill Ardour. System is Linux Mint 17, 64 bits, using KDE. File dialog of above directory attached.
we have considered officially announcing that KDE cannot be supported. Their window managers do not implement an important part of the Freedesktop standards for window layering. They have dismissed the bug reports about this (which started with the GIMP, which had/has the same problems) as "Will not fix". This is unacceptable. KDE is the only platform to have no sane window layering implementation. Our code works on Windows, OS X and with every other Linux desktop environment.
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Francis Gerund
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Ralf Mardorf