Hi, Am 31.01.2012 00:16, schrieb Taylor Hedberg:

You're not alone; I've seen the same thing in other GTK apps. I don't use Thunderbird but I assume I'd see it there as well if I did. Haven't bothered looking into it at all though.

Could this have something todo with the rebuild of libpng/libtiff? With other words: Do you have the testing repos enabled? Best regards, Karol Babioch

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2012 05:37 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:

Could this have something todo with the rebuild of libpng/libtiff? With other words: Do you have the testing repos enabled?

I don't have testing enabled. I don't think it is libpng/libtiff related because I have seen it for a couple of days/weeks/months (as close as I can recall). I think it is probably related to either: [2011-11-19 14:08] upgraded gtk2 (2.24.8-1 -> 2.24.8-2) [2012-01-26 18:26] upgraded gtk2 (2.24.8-2 -> 2.24.9-1) - -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 01/30/2012 07:20 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:

Hi David, I'm experiencing the same thing, but it can get worse/better depending upon the gtk-2 theme used. Firefox and Thunderbird seem to be compiled against gtk-2...

I'm using OverglossedHybrid for gtk-2, and I don't want to change. If I don't use any theme, defaulting to gnome, then the little triangles are a bit more noticeable, though still not as they should.

This appears to be some generic gtk2 problem, but I can't tell exactly when it started. I just checked an opensuse box and it shows the same problem with gkt2 (2.22.1), so it looks like the issue is in some package that interfaces with gtk2 because the version on the suse box is way older than the arch version and I still see the same behavior ...and... I know this is something I've just seen in the past 30 days or so on both distros. I have no idea what draws the little triangle (which package/lib, etc...), any ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 02/01/2012 01:01 AM, Алексей wrote:

2012/1/31 David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com>:

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Guys,

It seems one of the latest updates did something to the little triangle thread markers in thunderbird that show when a thread has responses. Now the triangles for collapsed threads look like little squiglies. The downward facing triangles showing expanded threads look OK. Anybody else see this? Does this look like a Gtk issue or an issue with thunderbird? This screenshot shows what I'm seeing:

Another data point - I'm using TB daily (12.0a1) on KDE with system fully updated from testing repos and I have no problems with that and never had a problem. Not suggesting you use testing .. just what I have. gene

On 02/01/2012 02:34 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

I'll downgrade and see if it help.

That wasn't it :( I downgraded: [2012-02-01 14:35] Running 'pacman -U pkg-1/pixman-0.24.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz' [2012-02-01 14:35] upgraded pixman (0.24.2-1 -> 0.24.0-1) [2012-02-01 14:46] Running 'pacman -U pkg-2/pixman-0.22.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz' [2012-02-01 14:46] upgraded pixman (0.24.0-1 -> 0.22.2-1) Same results. I'm back to 0.24.2-1 and scratching my head. Any other ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 02/01/2012 02:53 PM, Patrick Burroughs wrote:

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 13:51, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

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Same results. I'm back to 0.24.2-1 and scratching my head. Any other ideas?

The bug report mentioned that they needed to restart the entire X server after reverting that commit. Did you do that, or just restart thunderbird after downgrading?

~Celti

SMACKS self! I restarted kdm which obviously didn't restart X. kill -HUP <X PID> did. Downgrade to pixman 0.24.0 FIXED the issue, so it it definitely pixman. See: [36k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/img/misc/tbird-triangles-fixed.jpg Thanks for you help. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.