What are you doing to run a Windows 11 guest on Arch Linux in Virtualbox?
Hi, to run Windows 11 as Virtualbox guest I build Virtualbox < version 7. My current installed virtualbox was build against python 3.10.10-1. Today building against python 3.11.3-1 failed with "Checking for Python support: ** Python not found!". I can still start a Windows 11 guest with virtualbox build against python 3.10.10-1 on the machine that is updated to python 3.11.3-1. However, the situation threatens to become more serious. • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ pacman -Q python python 3.11.3-1 • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ grep SUPPYTHONLIBS= chroot/rocketmouse/build/virtualbox/src/VirtualBox-6.1.40/configure SUPPYTHONLIBS="python2.7 python2.6 python3.1 python3.2 python3.3 python3.4 python3.4m python3.5 python3.5m python3.6 python3.6m python3.7 python3.7m python3.8 python3.8m python3.9 python3.9m python3.10 python3.10m" • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ grep " python (" /var/log/pacman.log | tail -1 [2023-05-04T01:05:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python (3.10.10-1 -> 3.11.3-1) • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ pacman -Q virtualbox virtualbox 1:6.1.40-708.1 I want to build virtualbox 1:6.1.40-708.2 against latest version of python. Maybe I don't need to do this, but soon or later I at least need to build against another dependency and then python is involved, too. Perhaps just adding python3.11 to configure's SUPPYTHONLIBS already does the job to build virtualbox, without fixing something else. If so, the end of building virtualbox < version 7 to run Windows 11 guests is still close. What are you doing to run a Windows 11 guest? Regards, Ralf
On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 08:52, Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> wrote: Hi,
to run Windows 11 as Virtualbox guest I build Virtualbox < version 7. I do not like to say the solution to the problem with program x is to use program y, but if you can at all, I would suggest running an esxi server and running it under vmmware. vmware is free to use as a standalone esxi server. You can get a free serial just by signing up with an email, which doesn't even have to be your real address.
Am Donnerstag, dem 04.05.2023 um 09:51 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Hi,
to run Windows 11 as Virtualbox guest I build Virtualbox < version 7.
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I want to build virtualbox 1:6.1.40-708.2 against latest version of python. Maybe I don't need to do this, but soon or later I at least need to build against another dependency and then python is involved, too. Perhaps just adding python3.11 to configure's SUPPYTHONLIBS already does the job to build virtualbox, without fixing something else. If so, the end of building virtualbox < version 7 to run Windows 11 guests is still close.
What are you doing to run a Windows 11 guest?
Regards, Ralf
Hi Ralf, what's the problem with VirtualBox 7 and Windows 11? You could also try using QEMU with KVM to run Windows 11. Regards, André
Hi Andy, hi André, On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 08:56 +0100, Andy Pieters wrote:
I do not like to say the solution to the problem with program x is to use program y
for Windows guests on Linux hosts I like the shared clipboard and shared folders of virtualbox. I never used VMware ESXi... On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 10:14 +0200, André wrote:
what's the problem with VirtualBox 7 and Windows 11?
You could also try using QEMU with KVM to run Windows 11.
...I'm using QEMU/KVM for a Linux guest on a Linux host. It's better than virtualbox in many ways, but at least file sharing requires workarounds. The issue with the "Open Source Edition" as well as the non-OSE and Windows 11 guests is https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/76531 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21268 "[snip] Presently, VirtualBox runs on Windows, Linux, macOS, and Solaris hosts and supports a large number of guest operating systems including but not limited to Windows (NT 4.0, 2000, XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10) [snip]" - https://www.virtualbox.org/ The don't mention Windows 11. Since I'm on 6.1.40 and can take a look at 6.1.44+, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1#v44 . "If you're looking for the latest VirtualBox 6.1 packages, see VirtualBox 6.1 builds. Version 6.1 will remain supported until December 2023." - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Still no good prospects. Regards, Ralf
"[snip] Presently, VirtualBox runs on Windows, Linux, macOS, and Solaris hosts and supports a large number of guest operating systems including but not limited to Windows (NT 4.0, 2000, XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10) [snip]" - https://www.virtualbox.org/
The don't mention Windows 11.
No, but it does say "including but not limited to". So, what's the problem with VirtualBox 7 and Windows 11? Mark Silence madasi@gmail.com On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:41 AM Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi Andy, hi André,
On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 08:56 +0100, Andy Pieters wrote:
I do not like to say the solution to the problem with program x is to use program y
for Windows guests on Linux hosts I like the shared clipboard and shared folders of virtualbox. I never used VMware ESXi...
On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 10:14 +0200, André wrote:
what's the problem with VirtualBox 7 and Windows 11?
You could also try using QEMU with KVM to run Windows 11.
...I'm using QEMU/KVM for a Linux guest on a Linux host. It's better than virtualbox in many ways, but at least file sharing requires workarounds.
The issue with the "Open Source Edition" as well as the non-OSE and Windows 11 guests is https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/76531 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21268
"[snip] Presently, VirtualBox runs on Windows, Linux, macOS, and Solaris hosts and supports a large number of guest operating systems including but not limited to Windows (NT 4.0, 2000, XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10) [snip]" - https://www.virtualbox.org/
The don't mention Windows 11.
Since I'm on 6.1.40 and can take a look at 6.1.44+, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1#v44 .
"If you're looking for the latest VirtualBox 6.1 packages, see VirtualBox 6.1 builds. Version 6.1 will remain supported until December 2023." - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Still no good prospects.
Regards, Ralf
On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 17:19 -0500, Mark Silence wrote:
The don't mention Windows 11.
No, but it does say "including but not limited to". So, what's the problem with VirtualBox 7 and Windows 11?
See the below mentioned bug reports.
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:41 AM Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The issue with the "Open Source Edition" as well as the non-OSE and Windows 11 guests is https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/76531 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21268
Regards, Ralf
On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 09:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Perhaps just adding python3.11 to configure's SUPPYTHONLIBS already does the job to build virtualbox
Hi, I build virtualbox 6.1.44 by adding python3.11 to configure's SUPPYTHONLIBS. Everything seems fine so far. • rocketmouse@archlinux ~ $ pacman -Q virtualbox virtualbox-host-dkms virtualbox-guest-iso virtualbox 1:6.1.44-708.2 virtualbox-host-dkms 1:6.1.44-708.2 virtualbox-guest-iso 1:6.1.44-1 • rocketmouse@archlinux ~ $ grep build\( /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1/PKGBUILD -A6 build() { cd "VirtualBox-$pkgver" sed -i 's/"python2.7 python2.6 python3.1 python3.2 python3.3 python3.4 python3.4m python3.5 python3.5m python3.6 python3.6m python3.7 python3.7m python3.8 python3.8m python3.9 python3.9m python3.10 python3.10m"/"python2.7 python2.6 python3.1 python3.2 python3.3 python3.4 python3.4m python3.5 python3.5m python3.6 python3.6m python3.7 python3.7m python3.8 python3.8m python3.9 python3.9m python3.10 python3.10m python3.11"/' configure echo 'Build virtualbox' ./configure \ Regards, Ralf
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