On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:57:26 -0800, RedShift wrote:

Amanai wrote:

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The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra? http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Moonlight is an open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight for Unix systems. It's avaible for 32/64 bit! Release Notes Final release of Moonlight 1.0 Support for the Microsoft Media Pack Quick and easy installation of media codecs Several media releate bug fixes I hope one of the dev's like to pick this up.

Use the force: http://aur.archlinux.org/index.php

Glenn

AUR is a kids playground, how only blow up your system. Moonlight is important, if you like to navigate the browser in Windows Live websites or another websites how depend on silverlight. Like Adobe Flash Player, it will be great to find this in extra or community. I hope some dev will pick it up!

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:28:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 From: Amanai To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux"

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:19:55 -0800, Thomas Bohn wrote:

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On 01:25, Thu 22 Jan 09, Amanai wrote:

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The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra?

Currently the SVN version of Moonlight is available via AUR, the package is called "moon-svn."

Thomas

I pick this up. I don't want to build it and upload moonlight for AUR. I don't want to use any packages from AUR.

Archlinux have in Extra Repo's

flashplugin swfdec gnash libflashsupport

it is just missing "moonlight"!

File a feature request.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Allan McRae wrote:

stefan-husmann@t-online.de wrote:

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:28:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 From: Amanai To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux" On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:19:55 -0800, Thomas Bohn wrote:

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On 01:25, Thu 22 Jan 09, Amanai wrote:

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The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra?

Currently the SVN version of Moonlight is available via AUR, the package is called "moon-svn."

Thomas

I pick this up. I don't want to build it and upload moonlight for AUR. I don't want to use any packages from AUR.

Archlinux have in Extra Repo's

flashplugin swfdec gnash libflashsupport

it is just missing "moonlight"!

File a feature request.

In all honesty, I would close this as a "won't fix". If no-one is motivated enough to make a package for the stable version for this in the AUR and the community does not then vote for it, the demand is obviously not high enough for it to be included in the main repos.

Agreed. We're not in the habit of adding packages to extra simply because of one noisy user. We need to ensure people will actually use it so we're not wasting our time.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:09:44 +0100 Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 From: Amanai To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux"

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:39:40 -0800, stefan-husmann@t-online.de wrote:

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Hello,

I agree perfectly. But  it would be the correct way to handle things like that, and would put some noise away from this list.

BTW, the new rules for the TUs would even forbid to put it to community without discussion. The devs might have some similar rules for putting something new to extra.

Regards Stefan

New rules? The voting never worked and will never working!

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:18:59 -0800, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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Agreed. We're not in the habit of adding packages to extra simply because of one noisy user. We need to ensure people will actually use it so we're not wasting our time.

It was just one question if "moonlight" will pe a part of Archlinux and you call me "noisy user"! You must be a typical american overweight kid to say this! Did I wake you up in your dreamworld?

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:14:49 -0800, Vesa Kaihlavirta wrote:

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I gotta say, even with all the usual MS distrust that I've been carrying around since MS-DOS 3.x, on the surface Moonlight looks much more promising than the clusterfsck that is Flash. I'd be interested in at least giving it a shot.

--vk

This sounds mutch better,

They may work or not, rules are rules.

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:22:12 -0600 Aaron Griffin wrote:

Back on topic: One user talking on an ML does not make a package important. I have not yet run into a site that requires moonlight/silverlight. So, until we're actually going to get usage out of this package, putting it in extra is wasted effort. Now, if we have a dev willing to do it, that's fine - I'd recommend asking the mono maintainer or something of the sort. But considering it's not in the repos yet, I don't think we have any devs that care that much.

Ok, after all this discussion on this topic, I think I can manage the moonlight package. I will have a look into the moonlight package. I will open a new thread about this later on the public-dev-mailinglist, if it's necessary to discuss further things. moonlight isn't a big package and it belongs (more or less) to mono, so I can handle it together with mono.

The proper course for things of this nature is to put it in the AUR, and we can garner some need from that.

Cheers, Aaron

Cheers, Daniel

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote:

Funny you say that... Looking over the Moonlight homepage, there is the Microsoft covenant for not sueing who uses it. The first paragraph is very "interesting":

http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/moonlight.mspx

Basically, they agree not to sue you (the Moonlight users), just if you use a copy of the implementation only as a plugin and the copy must be made between the period of validity of the covenant. In other words, they can pull the plug on that and can sue everyone they want.

Could be. To my non-lawyer eyes, that looks like nothing, though. I mean, if that agreement didn't exist, would MS really have a case against Novell and the Mono/Moonlight projects?

I hardly think this is a good thing, even though the pure techonogy is better by now.

Well, for one, Moonlight is opensource while Flash quite certainly isn't. That should mean something, no? --vk

On Thu, January 22, 2009 12:28 pm, Amanai wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:19:55 -0800, Thomas Bohn wrote:

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On 01:25, Thu 22 Jan 09, Amanai wrote:

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The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra?

Currently the SVN version of Moonlight is available via AUR, the package is called "moon-svn."

Thomas

I pick this up. I don't want to build it and upload moonlight for AUR. I don't want to use any packages from AUR.

Archlinux have in Extra Repo's

flashplugin swfdec gnash libflashsupport

it is just missing "moonlight"!

Why not just installing the xpi-file for Firefox directly from the mono project? It works really great. Ok, it's not compiled from source, but it's available for i586 and x86_64. See here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Daniel

Amanai, The question: do you use any packages from community repo? On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Amanai wrote:

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Why not just installing the xpi-file for Firefox directly from the mono project? It works really great. Ok, it's not compiled from source, but it's available for i586 and x86_64.

See here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/

Daniel

I am using Opera! Moonlight works really great with Opera too. I just missing it in the Archlinux stable repo's extra. Daniel you maintain Mono, maybe you like to maintain moonlight ;)

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