[arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing? -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds
Seemes waiting KDE4.1 now?
2008/1/20, Rodrigo Coacci
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
-- Cheers Rodrigo
A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
Have you tried Tardo's repo?
Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
Not soon ;) Probably not untill 4.1 comes up
Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
-- Cheers Rodrigo
IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be actually usable. Glenn
On 20 Jan 2008 09:26, RedShift wrote:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
Aparently waiting on pacman 3.1.1, in a few days, to sort out some dependency issues. Keep an eye on this thread... http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=406&action=new
Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be actually usable.
It's usable to varying degrees right now and a lot of folks are just keen to try it out. I've got a Kubuntu laptop and even just using their KDE4 packages on top of 3.5.8 KWin (without the plasma desktop) is a worthwhile experience. --markc
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:26:07 +0100
RedShift
Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
-- Cheers Rodrigo
IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be actually usable.
Glenn
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :) -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User
On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)
This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0 release was... http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091 The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who might have missed it, is... http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be far more complete around KDE 4.0.3. --markc
On Jan 20, 2008 8:51 AM, Mark Constable
On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)
This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0 release was...
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091
The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who might have missed it, is...
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html
pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be far more complete around KDE 4.0.3.
--markc
Well, from the kdemod thread it seems I'll have to upgrade arch to testing, so I guess I'll stick with my Xfce for now... Thanks everybody for the replies. -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds
Il Saturday 19 January 2008 21:52:04 Rodrigo Coacci ha scritto:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
I use kde4 for my box for two month as my desktop and I'm quite happy with it I like to see changes and improvement come up day by day, it's very interesting , and I do my works as well. I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build , a great tool you can find here http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4 and don't mess with pacman database since it's not packaged. :-) Since the stuff is all there if I want to remove it I simply delete that folder and start again. So , tweak your .kdesvn-buildrc as you want , build with kdesvn-build --debug kdesupport kdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase set up a correct environment for the user (better with a script in /etc/profile.d) and you're done with your kde4 experience. cheers
On Jan 20, 2008 7:03 PM, Federico Manganelli
Il Saturday 19 January 2008 21:52:04 Rodrigo Coacci ha scritto:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
I use kde4 for my box for two month as my desktop and I'm quite happy with it I like to see changes and improvement come up day by day, it's very interesting , and I do my works as well. I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build , a great tool you can find here http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4 and don't mess with pacman database since it's not packaged. :-) Since the stuff is all there if I want to remove it I simply delete that folder and start again. So , tweak your .kdesvn-buildrc as you want , build with kdesvn-build --debug kdesupport kdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase set up a correct environment for the user (better with a script in /etc/profile.d) and you're done with your kde4 experience. cheers
Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time. -- Cheers, Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:58:25 Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build, a great tool you can find here http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4 ... Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time.
I just tried it and am now stuck at this point and no amount of googling is getting me a solution. I'm not soliciting any suggestions, wrong list for that, just pointing out it may not be such an easy path after all. The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1 version 0.62 was not found. Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to /home/laptop/Desktop/Devel/kdesvn/qt-copy/configure.new to see the final report. So there is this generic kdesvn-build solution, kdemod4 which will probably be usable rsn, some very old kde4-svn packages in AUR, some 64bit packages from tanis but I can't find the source packages. Anyone else know of any other options ? --markc
Il Monday 21 January 2008 02:27:27 Mark Constable ha scritto:
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:58:25 Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build, a great tool you can find here http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4 ...
Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time.
I just tried it and am now stuck at this point and no amount of googling is getting me a solution. I'm not soliciting any suggestions, wrong list for that, just pointing out it may not be such an easy path after all.
The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1 version 0.62 was not found. Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to /home/laptop/Desktop/Devel/kdesvn/qt-copy/configure.new to see the final report.
I had never built qt-copy with kdesvn-build, I commented it out in the config and stay with default qt (4.3.3 now in extra) arch package. Never had problems. I've also kdemod qt package installed but they don't interfere if you set the right environment. I do source of this file after text login (no kdm here): http://pastebin.ca/867293 to set the environment , then simply startx (pointing your .xinitrc to startkde) I hope this will help someone else :-) cheers
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Federico Manganelli
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JJDaNiMoTh
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Marc Deop i Argemí
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Mark Constable
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RedShift
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