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Francis Gerund

28 Sep 2016 28 Sep '16

3:24 p.m.

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc- requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md It was nice while it lasted. <sigh>

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D C

28 Sep 28 Sep

3:27 p.m.

Wow, is MS desperate or something? On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc- requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md

It was nice while it lasted.

<sigh>

-- Public_Key_Block.asc

Martin Kühne

6:53 p.m.

If anything, it's intel being asswipe lazy to not upstream linux drivers for this new raid mode. cheers! mar77i

Kwang Moo Yi

3:44 p.m.

On 28/09/16 17:24, Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc- requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md

It was nice while it lasted.

<sigh>

Actually, this story is a bit old and misleading. This has nothing to do with Microsoft, but mostly *Intel* and probably a bit to Lenovo. It's Intel's fault that this happens, as Lenovo's MS signiture device has BIOS locked into RAID mode, and this is not supported by Linux as the drivers are not provided by Intel. The reason Lenovo did this is to achieve lower power consumption + temperature using this proprietary technique. Obviously, they did not care much about Linux when making that decision. It would have been nice if they let users change the BIOS option at their own risk, even if it would cause harm to the devices' integrity. Cheers, Kwang

Doug Newgard

3:45 p.m.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:24:25 -0400 Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc- requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md

It was nice while it lasted.

<sigh>

They don't "block" Linux. They are using a higher performance RAID setup that there's simply no Linux driver for yet. Once someone creates one, you'll be able to install Linux. This is normal with new hardware, it happens all of the time.

D C

4:22 p.m.

I'm not gonna lie, this is all a tad technical even for me, but wouldn't intsalling an AMD chip solve the issue? On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Doug Newgard wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:24:25 -0400 Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

...
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc- requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md

It was nice while it lasted.

<sigh>

They don't "block" Linux. They are using a higher performance RAID setup that there's simply no Linux driver for yet. Once someone creates one, you'll be able to install Linux. This is normal with new hardware, it happens all of the time.

-- Public_Key_Block.asc

Dragon ryu

4:25 p.m.

2016/09/29 1:22 "D C via arch-general" :

I'm not gonna lie, this is all a tad technical even for me, but wouldn't intsalling an AMD chip solve the issue?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Doug Newgard

wrote:

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:24:25 -0400 Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

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https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/09/21/1516230/microsoft-signature-pc-

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requirements-now-blocks-linux-installation-reports?sbsrc=md

It was nice while it lasted.

<sigh>

They don't "block" Linux. They are using a higher performance RAID setup that there's simply no Linux driver for yet. Once someone creates one, you'll be able to install Linux. This is normal with new hardware, it happens all of the time.

-- Public_Key_Block.asc

hmm. Interesting. rather " 'driver' should be included inside kernel, or not" will separates priority and difficulty... All we need is wait. I assume.

Nicolas F.

29 Sep 29 Sep

3:58 p.m.

On 28.09.2016 17:24, Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

<sigh>

That was my reaction when I saw you post a long debunked FUD story to this list. The problem lies with Intel and Lenovo, not Microsoft, and it was not a malicious move against Linux, no matter how hard you want to be the victim here. If you want to run on modern computers, keep up with hardware developments, otherwise you're just dragging everyone else down. Stop getting your only source of information from shit websites with shit users such as slashdot.

Francis Gerund

22 Oct 22 Oct

11:37 p.m.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Nicolas F. wrote:

On 28.09.2016 17:24, Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote:

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<sigh>

That was my reaction when I saw you post a long debunked FUD story to this list. The problem lies with Intel and Lenovo, not Microsoft, and it was not a malicious move against Linux, no matter how hard you want to be the victim here. If you want to run on modern computers, keep up with hardware developments, otherwise you're just dragging everyone else down.

Stop getting your only source of information from shit websites with shit users such as slashdot.

Ouch! Okay . . . then would you please recommend one or more sites that you consider less "shit" than Slashdot?

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