[arch-general] Problems with Bluetooth packages
Greetings, i write about this right here because i can't file a bug report for an outdated package. Bluetooth in Arch is in a developing process and for that some apps are broken. For example, obexftp 0.22 can't be builded and don't seem to work with bluez 4.x. I build 0.23-alpha and compiled perfectly. Maybe i put it in AUR but i think is worth a dicussion for inclusion in Arch if is decided to use bluez 4.x and don't use bluez 3.x at all. Also, bluez 4.29 have some real big bug, it simply can't pair almost any device (not mine at least). That's reflected in the bluez page and there's a new version 4.30 that address this issues. One more time i know i can build my own packages but as i said it needs to be updated. I said all this because i think that for now is better to support bluez 3.x and 4.x. For example in gentoo, bluez 4.x is hard-masked, it has very little documentation, and the api and configs files change a lot, so for now adding support for bluez 3.x i think is not a bad idea. BTW, bluez 4.x don't include a passkey-agent (at least not with that name), i suggest to include in the pkgbuild to install test/simple-agent, like is mentioned here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12851?string=passkey
Hello everyone, same problem with the pairing here about the agent its already fixed in the git repos http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/tree/bluez On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings, i write about this right here because i can't file a bug report for an outdated package.
Bluetooth in Arch is in a developing process and for that some apps are broken. For example, obexftp 0.22 can't be builded and don't seem to work with bluez 4.x. I build 0.23-alpha and compiled perfectly. Maybe i put it in AUR but i think is worth a dicussion for inclusion in Arch if is decided to use bluez 4.x and don't use bluez 3.x at all.
Also, bluez 4.29 have some real big bug, it simply can't pair almost any device (not mine at least). That's reflected in the bluez page and there's a new version 4.30 that address this issues. One more time i know i can build my own packages but as i said it needs to be updated.
I said all this because i think that for now is better to support bluez 3.x and 4.x. For example in gentoo, bluez 4.x is hard-masked, it has very little documentation, and the api and configs files change a lot, so for now adding support for bluez 3.x i think is not a bad idea.
BTW, bluez 4.x don't include a passkey-agent (at least not with that name), i suggest to include in the pkgbuild to install test/simple-agent, like is mentioned here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12851?string=passkey
same too. the new upgrade broke bluetooth system totally, the tray icon disappears even bluetooth daemon is running. On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone, same problem with the pairing here
about the agent its already fixed in the git repos http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/tree/bluez
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings, i write about this right here because i can't file a bug report for an outdated package.
Bluetooth in Arch is in a developing process and for that some apps are broken. For example, obexftp 0.22 can't be builded and don't seem to work with bluez 4.x. I build 0.23-alpha and compiled perfectly. Maybe i put it in AUR but i think is worth a dicussion for inclusion in Arch if is decided to use bluez 4.x and don't use bluez 3.x at all.
Also, bluez 4.29 have some real big bug, it simply can't pair almost any device (not mine at least). That's reflected in the bluez page and there's a new version 4.30 that address this issues. One more time i know i can build my own packages but as i said it needs to be updated.
I said all this because i think that for now is better to support bluez 3.x and 4.x. For example in gentoo, bluez 4.x is hard-masked, it has very little documentation, and the api and configs files change a lot, so for now adding support for bluez 3.x i think is not a bad idea.
BTW, bluez 4.x don't include a passkey-agent (at least not with that name), i suggest to include in the pkgbuild to install test/simple-agent, like is mentioned here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12851?string=passkey
-- Best regards, Li Ye
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 07:07, 李业 <leeyee.seu@gmail.com> wrote:
same too. the new upgrade broke bluetooth system totally, the tray icon disappears even bluetooth daemon is running.
Everything worked fine during my tests on my gnome machine... I didn't remember I launched a few daemons by myself. I thought I'd better skip [testing] and intensive testing as I supposed the new packages, even if not perfect, was better than the previous deeply broken state (particularly for KDE4; it should be a lot better now). It appears it wasn't exactly a good move... (plus I had issues figuring out some unexpected behaviours from devs scripts, I'll elaborate on that later) Hope everything is fixed for you now (within the next hours because of mirroring delays). -- Geoffroy Carrier
Bluetooth in Arch is in a developing process and for that some apps are broken. For example, obexftp 0.22 can't be builded and don't seem to work with bluez 4.x. I build 0.23-alpha and compiled perfectly
Fedora also uses the 0.23-alpha version. -- damjan
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ? 2009/2/14 Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com>
Bluetooth in Arch is in a developing process and for that some apps are broken. For example, obexftp 0.22 can't be builded and don't seem to work with bluez 4.x. I build 0.23-alpha and compiled perfectly
Fedora also uses the 0.23-alpha version.
-- damjan
-- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE )
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 14:22, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ?
done. sh*t, that's an awful lot of releases! -- Geoffroy Carrier
Thanks again Geoffroy. BTW i don't see bluez 4.30 in the package page of archlinux. Maybe we need to wait for the repos to update ? 2009/2/14 Geoffroy Carrier <geoffroy.carrier@koon.fr>
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 14:22, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ?
done. sh*t, that's an awful lot of releases!
-- Geoffroy Carrier
-- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE )
Thanks again Geoffroy. Any help you need, there is my email. 2009/2/14 Geoffroy Carrier <geoffroy.carrier@koon.fr>
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 14:22, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ?
done. sh*t, that's an awful lot of releases!
-- Geoffroy Carrier
-- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE )
Thanks again Geoffroy. Any help you need, there is my email. 2009/2/14 Geoffroy Carrier <geoffroy.carrier@koon.fr>
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 14:22, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ?
done. sh*t, that's an awful lot of releases!
-- Geoffroy Carrier
-- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE )
Hi, I just want to tell you that for some reason there is no bluez-simple-agent in the package (4.30-1), however your PKGBUILD has it For me the same, if you need any help you can contact me any time thanks On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks again Geoffroy. Any help you need, there is my email.
2009/2/14 Geoffroy Carrier <geoffroy.carrier@koon.fr>
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 14:22, Ricardo Hernandez <ricardoh26@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Geoffroy, i see the new build for obexftp, indeed i think is better to release the packages sooner than later. What about bluez 4.30 ?
done. sh*t, that's an awful lot of releases!
-- Geoffroy Carrier
-- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE )
Hi, I just want to tell you that for some reason there is no bluez-simple-agent in the package (4.30-1), however your PKGBUILD has it
You have probably confused Geoffroys[1] packages with mine[2] [1] http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/bluez/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?revision=27009&view=markup [2] http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/tree/bluez Geoffroys package doesn't install the bluez-simple-agent script. I don't know if it should. -- damjan
what should I do if I need bluetooth just from command line? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I just want to tell you that for some reason there is no bluez-simple-agent in the package (4.30-1), however your PKGBUILD has it
You have probably confused Geoffroys[1] packages with mine[2]
[1] http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/bluez/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?revision=27009&view=markup [2] http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/tree/bluez
Geoffroys package doesn't install the bluez-simple-agent script. I don't know if it should.
-- damjan
and one more question: am I the only one who still cannot connect my headset device since the update to bluez4? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
what should I do if I need bluetooth just from command line?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I just want to tell you that for some reason there is no bluez-simple-agent in the package (4.30-1), however your PKGBUILD has it
You have probably confused Geoffroys[1] packages with mine[2]
[1] http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/bluez/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?revision=27009&view=markup [2] http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/tree/bluez
Geoffroys package doesn't install the bluez-simple-agent script. I don't know if it should.
-- damjan
Juan Diego 写道:
and one more question: am I the only one who still cannot connect my headset device since the update to bluez4? you are not alone, pal
1, bluez4's dbus api has changed, therefore, original script do not work any longer (bold part in start page of official bluez wiki: http://wiki.bluez.org/) 2, I did a little search on bluez4 headset howto, no luck 3, it's said that pulseaudio can handle this issue in a not-very-user-friendly way, I give it up since pulseaudio freaked me out (http://fosswire.com/2008/10/25/better-bluetooth-audio/)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
what should I do if I need bluetooth just from command line?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks for the info, however I starting to think that is impossible to make work bt audio with bluez4, about the pulseadio link this one is for the old way to do that (using alsa bluetooth module for pulseaudio) so this procedure now is obsolete if someone can make work bt audio with bluez4 please share the info thank you On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Lyman <lymanrb@gmail.com> wrote:
Juan Diego 写道:
and one more question: am I the only one who still cannot connect my headset device since the update to bluez4?
you are not alone, pal
1, bluez4's dbus api has changed, therefore, original script do not work any longer (bold part in start page of official bluez wiki: http://wiki.bluez.org/) 2, I did a little search on bluez4 headset howto, no luck 3, it's said that pulseaudio can handle this issue in a not-very-user-friendly way, I give it up since pulseaudio freaked me out (http://fosswire.com/2008/10/25/better-bluetooth-audio/)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
what should I do if I need bluetooth just from command line?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com> wrote:
hey, sorry, I just found how to, I will give the explanation if someone else need it: 1. start bluetoothd 2. run this command: bluez-simple-agent hci0 00:00:00:00:00 (hci0 is the device id and 00:00:00 is the headset mac adress), the headset must be in pairing mode 3. enjoy I mostly use command line mode, so now my request would be: please add simple-agent to the package, is the only way to use bluetooth on command line thanks On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks for the info, however I starting to think that is impossible to make work bt audio with bluez4, about the pulseadio link this one is for the old way to do that (using alsa bluetooth module for pulseaudio) so this procedure now is obsolete
if someone can make work bt audio with bluez4 please share the info
thank you
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Lyman <lymanrb@gmail.com> wrote:
Juan Diego 写道:
and one more question: am I the only one who still cannot connect my headset device since the update to bluez4?
you are not alone, pal
1, bluez4's dbus api has changed, therefore, original script do not work any longer (bold part in start page of official bluez wiki: http://wiki.bluez.org/) 2, I did a little search on bluez4 headset howto, no luck 3, it's said that pulseaudio can handle this issue in a not-very-user-friendly way, I give it up since pulseaudio freaked me out (http://fosswire.com/2008/10/25/better-bluetooth-audio/)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@gmail.com> wrote:
what should I do if I need bluetooth just from command line?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Damjan Georgievski <gdamjan@gmail.com> wrote:
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