Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts hack-a-thon?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Dienstag, 2. März 2010 09:39:19 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Personally, I would like to remove everything but basic ethernet support from initscripts (that would also include removing wireless, but some people were too strictly against that). What I am saying is, investing time into integrating more network stuff into initscripts is time wasted, as complex setups like bonding or bridging can be much better implemented in netcfg and the work should be spent on that instead.
I second this. We should concentrate on netcfg for network setup in future. Initscripts will just get too complicated (e.g. they don't support ipv& atm) while the same functionality is already provided by another package n core.
I would even completely remove the network and netfs deamon from initscripts; but I guess there wont be much support for this. :-)
I was saying that already back in 2007, took me just one minute to find the post :) http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=274397#p274397 Here is what iphitus answered : "Profiles came after INTERFACES, and INTERFACES will definitely not be removed. Many people still find them useful, particularly on desktops with static configurations - myself even. I do intend to increase the code share between these two, as there's a lot of duplication already, but that'll come later."
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:29 +0100, "Xavier Chantry" <chantry.xavier@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Dienstag, 2. März 2010 09:39:19 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Personally, I would like to remove everything but basic ethernet support from initscripts (that would also include removing wireless, but some people were too strictly against that). What I am saying is, investing time into integrating more network stuff into initscripts is time wasted, as complex setups like bonding or bridging can be much better implemented in netcfg and the work should be spent on that instead.
I second this. We should concentrate on netcfg for network setup in future. Initscripts will just get too complicated (e.g. they don't support ipv& atm) while the same functionality is already provided by another package n core.
I would even completely remove the network and netfs deamon from initscripts; but I guess there wont be much support for this. :-)
I was saying that already back in 2007, took me just one minute to find the post :) http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=274397#p274397
Here is what iphitus answered : "Profiles came after INTERFACES, and INTERFACES will definitely not be removed. Many people still find them useful, particularly on desktops with static configurations - myself even. I do intend to increase the code share between these two, as there's a lot of duplication already, but that'll come later."
Still think that too, though code-share is not really practical now. rc.d/network has it's place as it is so simple - I still use it on my desktop. I agree with restraining rc.d/network. The wireless support is very outdated already. Bridging/bonding can lead to complexities that rc.d/network is too simple to handle, which is reflected in some of the bug reports.
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James Rayner
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Xavier Chantry