On 06/26/2010 11:05 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote:

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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On 06/26/2010 10:28 AM, Lauri Niskanen wrote:

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Hello,

hi

it is stable enough for Arch and 1.0.1 is just too out date.

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Please update vlc to 1.1.0 and Wine to 1.2-rc5.

rc version doesn't belong in our official extra. it would be updated to 1.2 when is actually released

vlc is already commited in trunk by me but i'm waiting a reply from the upstream developer of libva. I don't have any issue releases vlc without hardware decoding and i guess you want that too no?

-- Ionuț

I learned a long time ago if our dev's are holding packages back it is for a legitimate reason. If you dont like it, build it from source. Its your machine, nobody says you have to wait for official packages. People that complain about packages not being updated in my opinion tend to not spend enough time investigating why or are too lazy too solve their own problems. Show me another distro that provides binaries as new as Arch. Keep track of upstream issues, understand what gets included in standard arch repos, learn how to bump versions on your own via PKGBUILD's if you really need it, or stop complaining. Depending on such a small group of dev's and maintainers to solve every update issue you have is asking too much and frankly ridiculous.

I'm sorry. I didn't want to complain. I wanted to get information about the status of the packages. I wanted to know that you know. It might have been so that the packages had been forgotten. Note that wine is marked as orphan. I am not deciding whether or not we should update to 1.2 release candidate. Not updating to it was just something abnormal as the earlier Wine updates (to the [unstable] 1.1.x development versions) had been so quick. -- Ape <Lauri Niskanen>

On 06/26/2010 11:11 AM, Allan McRae wrote:

On 26/06/10 17:43, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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On 06/26/2010 10:28 AM, Lauri Niskanen wrote:

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Hello,

hi

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it is stable enough for Arch and 1.0.1 is just too out date.

Please update vlc to 1.1.0 and Wine to 1.2-rc5.

rc version doesn't belong in our official extra. it would be updated to 1.2 when is actually released

Again I understand the Arch doesn't have unstable versions in [extra], but I want to give some extra information about the context. We will have the same issue later with 1.2.x vs 1.3.x. Wine stable releases are published very rarely. The stable release becomes really old before they release the next one. They have this super stable "stable" (1.0.x and soon 1.2.x), but they also release "development releases" (0.9.x, 1.1.x, and soon 1.3.x) that are carefully kept stable enough for end-users. Many other distributions have decided to use the development releases like they were stable releases. I give Ubuntu as one example. Generally they have very stable packages, not even the latest upstream stable but older. Arch Linux instead has the bleeding edge upstream version. Ubuntu Lucid (the latest stable Ubuntu version) has two packages for wine: wine and wine1.0. The more often used "wine" is version 1.1.42 and the extra stable additional package wine1.0 has 1.0.1. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/wine -- Ape <Lauri Niskanen>