[arch-general] findutils and locate

P .NIKOLIC

15 Apr 2012 15 Apr '12

8:15 a.m.

Hi . How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure . I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted Oh and it did not clobber the system whilst building it's database either Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

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Christoph Vigano

15 Apr 15 Apr

8:17 a.m.

On 04/15/2012 10:15 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Hi .

How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

Oh and it did not clobber the system whilst building it's database either

Pete .

Uhm, of which replacements are we talking? I don't remember any recent updates of those tools. Christoph

Allan McRae

8:33 a.m.

On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Hi .

How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

Oh and it did not clobber the system whilst building it's database either

The only way is to switch distros. Arch is obviously not for you.

Martti Kühne

11 a.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 06:33:58PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

the fuck, mlocate works fine here, it installs in /usr/bin/locate and /usr/bin/updatedb, which both run fine. same with findutils. actually you're not even posting error output or factual support like from -Ql, repo changes or anything else helpful. shame on you.

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The only way is to switch distros. Arch is obviously not for you.

Seriously quit the ...trolling, both of you. The way you are failing at complicating things here hurts my intellect. This list isn't 4chan. cheers! mar77i

Allan McRae

11:09 a.m.

On 15/04/12 21:00, Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 06:33:58PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

the fuck, mlocate works fine here, it installs in /usr/bin/locate and /usr/bin/updatedb, which both run fine. same with findutils.

actually you're not even posting error output or factual support like from -Ql, repo changes or anything else helpful. shame on you.

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The only way is to switch distros. Arch is obviously not for you.

Seriously quit the ...trolling, both of you. The way you are failing at complicating things here hurts my intellect. This list isn't 4chan.

It was not trolling but serious advise. If you can not do basic research, Arch is not the distribution for you. Allan

Martti Kühne

11:24 a.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 09:09:11PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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It was not trolling but serious advise. If you can not do basic research, Arch is not the distribution for you.

Allan

Thanks for pointing it out another superfluous time. Don't you know pete by now? Obviously that's how he works, and afaict we've been working hard in the past to get him improve this to good measure. so, let's just solve problems and not get caught up with accusitions of lazyness, since, ultimately, these are lazy as well. cheers! mar77i

Allan McRae

11:43 a.m.

On 15/04/12 21:24, Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 09:09:11PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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It was not trolling but serious advise. If you can not do basic research, Arch is not the distribution for you.

Thanks for pointing it out another superfluous time. Don't you know pete by now? Obviously that's how he works, and afaict we've been working hard in the past to get him improve this to good measure.

so, let's just solve problems and not get caught up with accusitions of lazyness, since, ultimately, these are lazy as well.

No... I think I will continue to tell him to do some basic research or switch distros. One day it might get through. Allan

P .NIKOLIC

12:52 p.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 21:43:44 +1000 Allan McRae wrote:

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On 15/04/12 21:24, Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 09:09:11PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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It was not trolling but serious advise. If you can not do basic research, Arch is not the distribution for you.

Thanks for pointing it out another superfluous time. Don't you know pete by now? Obviously that's how he works, and afaict we've been working hard in the past to get him improve this to good measure.

so, let's just solve problems and not get caught up with accusitions of lazyness, since, ultimately, these are lazy as well.

No... I think I will continue to tell him to do some basic research or switch distros. One day it might get through.

Allan

You sir are obnoxious and offensive i asked a polite question that you seem to think is otherwise do not darken my desktop again please Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

P .NIKOLIC

12:49 p.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:00:19 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 06:33:58PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

the fuck, mlocate works fine here, it installs in /usr/bin/locate and /usr/bin/updatedb, which both run fine. same with findutils.

actually you're not even posting error output or factual support like from -Ql, repo changes or anything else helpful. shame on you.

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The only way is to switch distros. Arch is obviously not for you.

Seriously quit the ...trolling, both of you. The way you are failing at complicating things here hurts my intellect. This list isn't 4chan.

cheers! mar77i

DID i swear no i dont expect reply's to either thanks muchly you come on the list ask a polite question you get bad mouthed and told to switch distros . Right mlocate is installed updatedb takes no time it is instant it fails to read a thing .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that i do NOT want read thats it nothing else now can we have some sensible replies please .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Allan McRae

12:54 p.m.

On 15/04/12 22:49, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:00:19 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 06:33:58PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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How can i return full function to the findutils and locate , It was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to never failed to find what i wanted

the fuck, mlocate works fine here, it installs in /usr/bin/locate and /usr/bin/updatedb, which both run fine. same with findutils.

actually you're not even posting error output or factual support like from -Ql, repo changes or anything else helpful. shame on you.

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The only way is to switch distros. Arch is obviously not for you.

Seriously quit the ...trolling, both of you. The way you are failing at complicating things here hurts my intellect. This list isn't 4chan.

cheers! mar77i

DID i swear no i dont expect reply's to either thanks muchly

you come on the list ask a polite question you get bad mouthed and told to switch distros .

Right mlocate is installed updatedb takes no time it is instant it fails to read a thing .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that i do NOT want read thats it nothing else

now can we have some sensible replies please ..

Once again, a failure at basic research... Adjust the configuration file.

Martti Kühne

1:41 p.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 01:49:41PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Right mlocate is installed updatedb takes no time it is instant it fails to read a thing .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that i do NOT want read thats it nothing else

now can we have some sensible replies please ..

Pete .

try to ignore the bad vibes here and beat someone up IRL, it's more satisfying. man updatedb.conf mentions PRUNEPATH. did you set that in /etc/updatedb.conf? can you paste your config, while we're at it? cheers! mar77i

P .NIKOLIC

3:38 p.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:41:55 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 01:49:41PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Right mlocate is installed updatedb takes no time it is instant it fails to read a thing .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that i do NOT want read thats it nothing else

now can we have some sensible replies please ..

Pete .

try to ignore the bad vibes here and beat someone up IRL, it's more satisfying.

man updatedb.conf mentions PRUNEPATH. did you set that in /etc/updatedb.conf? can you paste your config, while we're at it?

cheers! mar77i

Hi .. Yes some people i would really like to meet face to face but still .. Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows # directories to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEPATHS="/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1" # filesystems to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEFS="afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf" yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately on the system in a location that IS searchable Thanks Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

gt

4:43 p.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:38:01PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows # directories to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEPATHS="/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1"

# filesystems to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEFS="afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf"

yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately on the system in a location that IS searchable

Does /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db exist? If it does, then when was the last time it was accessed? -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

P .NIKOLIC

4:51 p.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:13:33 +0530 gt wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:38:01PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows # directories to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEPATHS="/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1"

# filesystems to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEFS="afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf"

yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately on the system in a location that IS searchable

Does /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db exist? If it does, then when was the last time it was accessed?

Hi .. Yes it is there .. -rw-r----- 1 root locate 7868436 Apr 15 13:48 mlocate.db Doing a strings on the file it contains the expected data but i still get no files show up when i try locate filename even if the file is listed in the db and it Actually exists on the drive and is good Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Martti Kühne

9:49 p.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:51:36PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Hi ..

Yes it is there ..

-rw-r----- 1 root locate 7868436 Apr 15 13:48 mlocate.db

Doing a strings on the file it contains the expected data but i still get no files show up when i try locate filename even if the file is listed in the db and it Actually exists on the drive and is good

is the data up to date after updatedb? Actually, no it's not. the header of mlocate.db is tested on configuration changes, described in [1]. Likely, configuration has changed with a recent update, so your problem would possibly have been fixed right after you looked into "man mlocate.db" I am just confused to find you never having had this problem before...? cheers! mar77i [1] http://linux.die.net/man/5/mlocate.db

P .NIKOLIC

10:10 p.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:49:45 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:51:36PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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Hi ..

Yes it is there ..

-rw-r----- 1 root locate 7868436 Apr 15 13:48 mlocate.db

Doing a strings on the file it contains the expected data but i still get no files show up when i try locate filename even if the file is listed in the db and it Actually exists on the drive and is good

is the data up to date after updatedb?

Actually, no it's not.

the header of mlocate.db is tested on configuration changes, described in [1]. Likely, configuration has changed with a recent update, so your problem would possibly have been fixed right after you looked into "man mlocate.db"

I am just confused to find you never having had this problem before...?

cheers! mar77i

[1] http://linux.die.net/man/5/mlocate.db

Hi . It has been flakey for a while but now it just does not do anything i have no reports of errors anywhere just displays nothing something failing on my guess would be a changed permission somewhere althou i dont mess around with permissions outside of my user area . Pete .. -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Mauro Santos

10:53 p.m.

On 15-04-2012 23:10, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:49:45 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

something failing on my guess would be a changed permission somewhere althou i dont mess around with permissions outside of my user area .

Are you using locate as your user? If so, are you on the locate group? -- Mauro Santos

Martti Kühne

10:59 p.m.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:53:21PM +0100, Mauro Santos wrote:

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Are you using locate as your user? If so, are you on the locate group?

not needed here: -rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar 3 06:53 /usr/bin/locate [martti@arch64-vm ~]$ groups wheel martti the s lets locate run with group locate already. cheers! mar77i

P .NIKOLIC

16 Apr 16 Apr

7:22 a.m.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:53:21 +0100 Mauro Santos wrote:

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On 15-04-2012 23:10, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:49:45 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote:

something failing on my guess would be a changed permission somewhere althou i dont mess around with permissions outside of my user area .

Are you using locate as your user? If so, are you on the locate group?

-rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar 3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate it is running with the default as you can see this is getting a bit strange to say the least think the next is going to be uninstall and reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen Ho Humm Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

gt

7:43 a.m.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:22:03AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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-rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar 3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate

it is running with the default as you can see this is getting a bit strange to say the least think the next is going to be uninstall and reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen

Remove the .db along with trying a re-install. -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org

P .NIKOLIC

7:54 a.m.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:13:41 +0530 gt wrote:

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:22:03AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:

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-rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar 3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate

it is running with the default as you can see this is getting a bit strange to say the least think the next is going to be uninstall and reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen

Remove the .db along with trying a re-install.

Yep will do be doing that tonight so maybe know later Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 3 06:46:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

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