[arch-general] Terrible flash performance
I have an ongoing problem with flash performance. I tried installing flashplugin-11.1.102.55-1 from the pacman repositories. The videos on youtube for example, works fine as long as I don't turn on fullscreen. The video gets really choppy and the CPU usage spikes to 100% (one core). I have a Core2Duo on 2ghz. A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not. The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site. Does anyone have similar issues? I also have an Nvidia card which unfortunately does not support GPU acceleration.
On 03/01/12 at 01:58pm, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
I have an ongoing problem with flash performance. I tried installing flashplugin-11.1.102.55-1 from the pacman repositories. The videos on youtube for example, works fine as long as I don't turn on fullscreen. The video gets really choppy and the CPU usage spikes to 100% (one core). I have a Core2Duo on 2ghz. A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not.
The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site. Does anyone have similar issues? I also <F11>have an Nvidia card which unfortunately does not support GPU acceleration.
Try flashplugin-beta from AUR. It works for me much better than flashplugin from extra repository. --
Try flashplugin-beta from AUR. It works for me much better than flashplugin from extra repository.
Just tried it. The same thing as from the extra or just libflashplayer.so placed in the appropriate plugin file. :/
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:58:23 +0100 Vladimir Nikšić <vniksic@gmail.com> wrote:
I have an ongoing problem with flash performance. I tried installing flashplugin-11.1.102.55-1 from the pacman repositories. The videos on youtube for example, works fine as long as I don't turn on fullscreen. The video gets really choppy and the CPU usage spikes to 100% (one core). I have a Core2Duo on 2ghz. A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not.
The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site. Does anyone have similar issues? I also have an Nvidia card which unfortunately does not support GPU acceleration.
Do you have "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1" uncommented in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg? I had to comment mine out else I get results much like yours.
Do you have "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1" uncommented in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg? I had to comment mine out else I get results much like yours.
It was already set to 0. Just as a precaution, I commented it out, but as expected, no changes.
2012/1/3 Vladimir Nikšić <vniksic@gmail.com>
I have an ongoing problem with flash performance. I tried installing flashplugin-11.1.102.55-1 from the pacman repositories. The videos on youtube for example, works fine as long as I don't turn on fullscreen. The video gets really choppy and the CPU usage spikes to 100% (one core).
Have you tried switching the hardware acceleration on or off either through the interface or the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file ? For YouTube, you should switch to HTML5 [1]. [1] http://www.youtube.com/html5 -- Cédric Girard
Have you tried switching the hardware acceleration on or off either through the interface or the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file ?
Tried all combinations, no luck.
For YouTube, you should switch to HTML5 [1].
Yes, I'm well aware of the HTML5 youtube. It's still not up to speed, as far as stability or functionality as the flash one. It still needs ironing out. I won't comment on the fullscreen performance though. :) I'm probably out of luck for now, html5 it is, at least the fullscreen works great!
On 03/01/12 14:47, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
Have you tried switching the hardware acceleration on or off either through the interface or the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file ?
Tried all combinations, no luck.
For YouTube, you should switch to HTML5 [1].
Yes, I'm well aware of the HTML5 youtube. It's still not up to speed, as far as stability or functionality as the flash one. It still needs ironing out. I won't comment on the fullscreen performance though. :) I'm probably out of luck for now, html5 it is, at least the fullscreen works great! You could use stuff like minitube for youtube or youtube-dl
-- Jelle van der Waa
On 03/01/12 at 02:48pm, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
On 03/01/12 14:47, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
Have you tried switching the hardware acceleration on or off either through the interface or the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file ?
Tried all combinations, no luck.
For YouTube, you should switch to HTML5 [1].
Yes, I'm well aware of the HTML5 youtube. It's still not up to speed, as far as stability or functionality as the flash one. It still needs ironing out. I won't comment on the fullscreen performance though. :) I'm probably out of luck for now, html5 it is, at least the fullscreen works great! You could use stuff like minitube for youtube or youtube-dl
Or youtube-viewer --
You could use stuff like minitube for youtube or youtube-dl
I know of minitube, but that's not a replacement for in-browser youtube, clicking links, multiple tabs, etc...
On a related note, does your flashplayer crash as often as mine does? I often get chromium notifications that the plugin crashed. Sometimes I have to refresh some flash page (youtube,...) at least 10 times before it finally starts playing the video. This is on x86_64 with flashplugin from extra, but the one from AUR does not work any better. It happens with and without GPU acceleration. Bastian 2012/1/3 Vladimir Nikšić <vniksic@gmail.com>
You could use stuff like minitube for youtube or youtube-dl
I know of minitube, but that's not a replacement for in-browser youtube, clicking links, multiple tabs, etc...
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Am 03.01.2012 13:58, schrieb Vladimir Nikšić:
A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not.
"A couple of months ago", there was no 64 bit version of the flash player, only a 32 bit version.
The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site.
That's because they're the exact same files. Yay for running pointless tests. (It's not like we magically modify the closed-source libflashplayer.so to behave differently.)
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 03.01.2012 13:58, schrieb Vladimir Nikšić:
A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not.
"A couple of months ago", there was no 64 bit version of the flash player, only a 32 bit version.
Nope, I was using a 64bit .so file, downloaded from adobe's site. It was 10.something but it worked fine.
The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site.
That's because they're the exact same files. Yay for running pointless tests. (It's not like we magically modify the closed-source libflashplayer.so to behave differently.)
Actually, the one I downloaded from adobe was a slightly higher version than the one from extras. I had hoped they fixed the problem, but didn't happen. It didn't occur to me to try the one from AUR, but it's the same version I downloaded manually.
On 01/03/2012 02:58 PM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
I have an ongoing problem with flash performance. I tried installing flashplugin-11.1.102.55-1 from the pacman repositories. The videos on youtube for example, works fine as long as I don't turn on fullscreen. The video gets really choppy and the CPU usage spikes to 100% (one core). I have a Core2Duo on 2ghz. A couple of months ago I switched from Ubuntu where youtube was working essentially flawlessly, fullscreen or not.
The same issue occurs on manually downloaded the latest 64bit libflashplayer.so from adobe's site. Does anyone have similar issues? I also have an Nvidia card which unfortunately does not support GPU acceleration.
Hi, I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res 1920x1200 and fullscreen works fine. Some more info on your setup is required. 1. Window manager? Browser used? 2. Which Nvidia Card and Driver used? 3. Driver config? 4. Compiz, KDE4 or other effects enabled? 5. What process grabs 100% CPU. 6. What resolution videos are you watching? That should be good for a start. Manne
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Manne Merak <mannemerak@gmail.com> wrote:
I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res 1920x1200 and fullscreen works fine.
There are some oddities with this flash version. For example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKv7lyIJts0 This video plays terribly in fullscreen (html5, minitube etc, fullscreen works great) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5irTX82olg Shakira works great in fullscreen. Now I'm really confused.
Some more info on your setup is required. 1. Window manager? Browser used?
XFCE, Chromium, build from extras. Firefox has the same issues.
2. Which Nvidia Card and Driver used?
NVIDIA 7950 GT, driver 290.10.
3. Driver config?
Everything default, didn't change a thing.
4. Compiz, KDE4 or other effects enabled?
I'm running XFCE, absolutely no video effects, I dislike those.
5. What process grabs 100% CPU.
Top reports that chromium grabs 100% CPU.
6. What resolution videos are you watching?
Doesn't matter, even 240p videos are choppy, while some (like shakira, work OK with 1080p...). Unfortunately most of the videos are choppy.
On 01/04/2012 01:53 AM, Vladimir Niks(ic' wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Manne Merak<mannemerak@gmail.com> wrote:
I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res 1920x1200 and fullscreen works fine. There are some oddities with this flash version. For example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKv7lyIJts0 This video plays terribly in fullscreen (html5, minitube etc, fullscreen works great) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5irTX82olg Shakira works great in fullscreen.
Now I'm really confused.
Some more info on your setup is required. 1. Window manager? Browser used? XFCE, Chromium, build from extras. Firefox has the same issues.
2. Which Nvidia Card and Driver used? NVIDIA 7950 GT, driver 290.10.
3. Driver config? Everything default, didn't change a thing.
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works fine. Long shot, but try adding: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection to your xorg.conf file. Manne
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works fine. Long shot, but try adding:
[...] Long shot... and miss. :)
On 01/04/2012 11:11 AM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works fine. Long shot, but try adding: [...]
Long shot... and miss. :)
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid. Section "Device" ... Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "TripleBuffer" "True" Option "PixmapCacheSize" "300000" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True" The cache size helped a lot a while back with Wine games I think. Manne
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device" ... Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "TripleBuffer" "True" Option "PixmapCacheSize" "300000" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
The cache size helped a lot a while back with Wine games I think.
Please read the nvidia readme again. Some of those options may nowadays be enabled by default, obsolete or a bad idea. For example, RenderAccel is enabled by default.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device" ... Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "TripleBuffer" "True" Option "PixmapCacheSize" "300000" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
The cache size helped a lot a while back with Wine games I think.
Please read the nvidia readme again. Some of those options may nowadays be enabled by default, obsolete or a bad idea.
For example, RenderAccel is enabled by default.
I don't think I can solve the problem with anything like this. The weirdest thing is that some videos work great, but most don't, unfortunately. I tried accessing various red or other tubes and the fullscreen works properly. :) Anyway, I'm on html5 for the time being, it's not perfect, but it's ok.
On 01/04/2012 06:35 PM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Bächler<thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device" ... Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "TripleBuffer" "True" Option "PixmapCacheSize" "300000" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
The cache size helped a lot a while back with Wine games I think. Please read the nvidia readme again. Some of those options may nowadays be enabled by default, obsolete or a bad idea.
For example, RenderAccel is enabled by default. I don't think I can solve the problem with anything like this. The weirdest thing is that some videos work great, but most don't, unfortunately. I tried accessing various red or other tubes and the fullscreen works properly. :) Anyway, I'm on html5 for the time being, it's not perfect, but it's ok.
OK. Strange indeed that some work fine? Having more people on HTML5 is always good. Manne
On 01/04/2012 01:01 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device" ... Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "TripleBuffer" "True" Option "PixmapCacheSize" "300000" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
The cache size helped a lot a while back with Wine games I think. Please read the nvidia readme again. Some of those options may nowadays be enabled by default, obsolete or a bad idea.
For example, RenderAccel is enabled by default.
True, usually only fiddle with xorg.org when something breaks at update. Manne
On 01/04/2012 12:45 AM, Manne Merak wrote:
On 01/04/2012 01:53 AM, Vladimir Niks(ic' wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Manne Merak<mannemerak@gmail.com> wrote:
I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res 1920x1200 and fullscreen works fine. There are some oddities with this flash version. For example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKv7lyIJts0 This video plays terribly in fullscreen (html5, minitube etc, fullscreen works great) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5irTX82olg Shakira works great in fullscreen.
Now I'm really confused.
Some more info on your setup is required. 1. Window manager? Browser used? XFCE, Chromium, build from extras. Firefox has the same issues.
2. Which Nvidia Card and Driver used? NVIDIA 7950 GT, driver 290.10.
3. Driver config? Everything default, didn't change a thing.
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works fine. Long shot, but try adding:
Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection
to your xorg.conf file.
Manne
Not sure if this will help you but on my Asus laptop I have as a backup I had to do: # mkdir /etc/adobe # echo \"OverrideGPUValidation = 1\" >> /etc/adobe/mms.cfg # mkdir /etc/adobe # echo \"OverrideGPUValidation = 1\">> /etc/adobe/mms.cfg Had to dig this message out of my trash so not sure if this was suggested to try or not. Hope this could be of help.
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Alan Ianson
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Bastian Beischer
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Vladimir Nikšić